I'm sure most collectors have at times found a “non circulating coin” in circulation, I've found a few.
I'd just like to know how people deal with this in terms of adding it to their collection / swaplist.
For me the choice was just “BU in coincard” which is the only way the coin was released, but that doesn't describe my coin as someone had previously removed it from the card and spent it.
I selected “BU in coincard” but made a private note that the coin was found in circulation and graded it for myself appropriately.
I then found another of the same coin and wanted to offer it up for swap, the only thing I did differently was to make the note public.
Is there any other way to better deal with this situation.
Maybe about a month or two ago I found roughly 20 US proof state quarters in circulation. I work in retail part time while I finish university and someone must've cracked open a bunch of proof sets and dumped them into the CoinStar because I can't think of any other possibility for how all those proof quarters would've ended up at our store. I bought all of them that I could find, but I there are probably a few I wasn't able to get to in time.
I don't have them labeled any differently than anything else in my collection since I don't really collect proof coins so it's easy for me to identify, and since I don't plan on doing any swaps anytime soon that's not a concern for me either.
I find them all the time. I put them in my collection and swap list. I will not buy them from the mint or sale areas. My Sacagawea dollar collection only needs 2004 P, 2005 D and 2006 D. I have at least one coin for each president dollar including Bush. All non circulating coins i find in circulation. Here are some i found lately.
If i get them at face value i put them in my collection.
Daryl, I have found several of the non-circulation issue Presidential dollars in rolls as well. I think because they were sold in mint rolls people bought them to complete collections and then spent the rest. They are quite common in rolls.
I haven’t seen any other non-circulation dollars though.
Yes worth i think you are right about the Presidential dollars, they seam to be common to find. I get alot from the soda machine at work.
Do you want the American Innovation dollar , it is just sitting on my desk. As have that one in my collection. Just send me a PM. Give it time you will found some. I have even found alot of the non circulating Native American dollars
I live in Germany so I won't find any US non circulation coins in my change, but I have found some proofs (I acually did find 2x 2ct proof yesteday) and a few years that where only issued for sets. But those are just non circulation “years”, not types.
I find them all the time. I put them in my collection and swap list. I will not buy them from the mint or sale areas. My Sacagawea dollar collection only needs 2004 P, 2005 D and 2006 D. I have at least one coin for each president dollar including Bush. All non circulating coins i find in circulation. Here are some i found lately.
If i get them at face value i put them in my collection.
daryl
Wow! That's impressive. I have found only one non-circulating coin in my change:
I got three commemorative loonies at the grocery store back in 2019. One of those was the coin on the right which is a 2000 W loonie. No W-mintmarked coin is circulating. They were only produced for sets.
In my view, these become full legal tender once in circulation, so I save them. Unlike our Canadian cartoon, Chinese New Year, and other such faux-coins, I believe such base metal coins from sets become full legal tender once in circulation. That's true as well of the 1997-1998 caribou 25c coins which were issued only in sets.
The earliest I know of non-circulating coins which was actually circulating is the US 1892-1893 Colombian Exposition halves. The coin page now says they're circulating, which I agree with because most ended up in circulation, but I believe that, like other commemorative halves, they were not mean to circulate. If anyone knows better, do let us know!
EDIT ─ If you've watched the unveiling of the new Charles III effigy at the RCM installations at Winnipeg, you may have noticed that among circulation coins they included the 50 cent piece. Technically, it's a circulation coin, but nobody sends orders of ordinary (circulating) rolls to the Mint, so it's all collectors' products (special rolls and 5c─$2 coin sets).
Daryl's 1986 frosted quarter: at first I thought it was a silver proof, but it's actually nickel, right?
Mr. Midnight's pennies: quite interesting to me because by that time (1985) no “S” penny was meant for circulation. It looks like they were damaged by water.
Yes, shudders to think of how your coin collection could get soaked, and you wouldnt know about it for months or years, until terrible damage had set in.
Do Proofs like this come loose, or by the roll? Can you buy rolls of proof silver quarters? pardon my ignorance, I never wanted anything from the US Mint.
I somehow imagined them all issued in those plastic mailer sets.
Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac
Yes worth i think you are right about the Presidential dollars, they seam to be common to find. I get alot from the soda machine at work.
Do you want the American Innovation dollar , it is just sitting on my desk. As have that one in my collection. Just send me a PM. Give it time you will found some. I have even found alot of the non circulating Native American dollars
Hi Daryl,
you're sitting in the middle of the center of the movements of the US coins, my daughter is not paying attention to coins, so I'm always interested in your findings. My daughter is OK as a proxy goes…
Hope you are well and family are good. Yes i do find alot of odd stuff. The other night got another Woodrow Wilson 2013 P
with a misaligned die.
If you look by the W in Woodrow, the rim is the thinnest. Then look at the W on the other side it is the thickest. Not by much but can see with my old eyes.And this odd penny not sure what is going on. Filled die , maybe.
Hi my friend. I had some health issues. And cut my finger really bad at work. Last a small amount of movement. But all is good now. Iam springing a bit slower.
@ALLRED1950 I am sure you must be living in the cities where they mint coins
Absolutely mind blowing
Here, New coins only come with the era of a new monarch (God forbid)
Darn it
But your coins get a new year every year? See, they do change?
Nope
Only issued in 2016 (I am talking about Saudi Arabia & yes, there are new coins in India but it has been 3 years since I visited India, I have very low memories of it 😐)
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I just took a look and saw to my surprise, that you're right, not even a regnal year on the Saudi Arabian coins. That's pretty boring…. In the days of Abdullah, the years did change, though.
I just took a look and saw to my surprise, that you're right, not even a regnal year on the Saudi Arabian coins. That's pretty boring…. In the days of Abdullah, the years did change, though.
Yep
I am just fed up with seeing same coins
To be very frank, (No Offence), I am kind of envious of those who live in US, GB or EU as they see 100s of new varieties every year & also there is no one here to swap coins with or even currency exchange don't keep coins here
I am desperately waiting for some tourist to come here & have a swap with me, LOL
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To be very frank, (No Offence), I am kind of envious of those who live in US, GB or EU as they see 100s of new varieties every year & also there is no one here to swap coins with or even currency exchange don't keep coins here
…
But “better is the enemy of what is good”
Europ killed the interest to yearly 2€ commemorative coins. 36 new coins for 2023 !
Nobody care now, many french didn't even notice that the obverse of the standard 2€ coin changed on 2022.
It was the same type of inflation that destroyed the interest for stamps .
To be very frank, (No Offence), I am kind of envious of those who live in US, GB or EU as they see 100s of new varieties every year & also there is no one here to swap coins with or even currency exchange don't keep coins here
…
But “better is the enemy of what is good”
Europ killed the interest to yearly 2€ commemorative coins. 36 new coins for 2023 !
Nobody care now, many french didn't even notice that the obverse of the standard 2€ coin changed on 2022.
It was the same type of inflation that destroyed the interest for stamps .
I can sympathize
But still try understand my plight :(
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Please tell me if Saudi Arabia has any restrictions on letters containing coins entering its borders. I have quite a few coins, which don't even make into my swap list, which I could send you, to get out of your frustration?
Please tell me if Saudi Arabia has any restrictions on letters containing coins entering its borders. I have quite a few coins, which don't even make into my swap list, which I could send you, to get out of your frustration?
Take care and enjoy
Ole
This is very generous of you
No, there aren't restrictions unless you explicitly mark them as coins, mark them as metal plates for construction always does the trick ;)
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So, vending machines accept the dollar coin? Yet there are very few of them in circulation, right? Last time I was in the US was about 9-10 years ago, and nothing bigger than the quarter circulated regularly.
Or is it that the government is slowly getting the American people to accept the idea of a dollar coin?
At least there is a standard of 8.1g / 26.5 mm, which is the same as the Sacagawea dollar. That's a start.
So, vending machines accept the dollar coin? Yet there are very few of them in circulation, right? Last time I was in the US was about 9-10 years ago, and nothing bigger than the quarter circulated regularly.
Or is it that the government is slowly getting the American people to accept the idea of a dollar coin?
At least there is a standard of 8.1g / 26.5 mm, which is the same as the Sacagawea dollar. That's a start.
Vending machines thrive on $1 coins. That allows them to accept $5 banknotes without the hassle of dispensing $1 banknotes in change. As far as regular circulation, the quarter is still the largest coin. Try to pass off a 50 cent coin and you'll get a pissed look from the cashier. Try to pass off a $1 coin and you'll get a quizzical look from the cashier. The 8.1g/26.5 standard started with the first attempt to get Americans to use $1 coins, the Susan B. Anthony dollar. It failed, too often mistaken for a quarter.
Vending machines thrive on $1 coins. That allows them to accept $5 banknotes without the hassle of dispensing $1 banknotes in change. As far as regular circulation, the quarter is still the largest coin. Try to pass off a 50 cent coin and you'll get a pissed look from the cashier. Try to pass off a $1 coin and you'll get a quizzical look from the cashier. The 8.1g/26.5 standard started with the first attempt to get Americans to use $1 coins, the Susan B. Anthony dollar. It failed, too often mistaken for a quarter.
Thanks for the reply, rsirian1. It all makes sense now. So I suppose the normal reflex is to save these dollars for your next vending machine purchase… unless you collect them.
In Canada the specifications for the “loonie” are 6.27 g • ⌀ 26.5 mm. I never see it mistaken for a quarter. I think it just takes a short time to get used to it.
Another example here is polymer notes. When we went polymer, people complained that they were unable to count piles of notes. But everyone got used to the different "feel" at your finger tips and nobody to my knowledge complains now. It's all a question of letting the brain get used to the innovation.
Thanks for the reply, rsirian1. It all makes sense now. So I suppose the normal reflex is to save these dollars for your next vending machine purchase… unless you collect them.
Yes, exactly that.
The ultimate goal is to eliminate the $1 bank note but the backlash from the public makes it hard for the politicians to pass the necessary laws to do it. They thought was to introduce the Eisenhower Dollar in 1971 - too big and too heavy, then the Susan B. Anthony in 1979 - too often mistaken for a quarter. Then they got the idea to make it look golden so the Sacagawea was born in 2000. Except the public didn't like them either - just because, except for the vending machine industry.
A friend of mine who know I collect coins pulled 2 Sacagawea coins out of his pocket and asked me what they were. I told him. A couple days later he told me he got rid of them. He took them to the bank and exchanged them for two $1 bills.
Oh yes the vending machine is king of the dollar coins here. I can remember when the Susan B. Anthony dollar came out. Thy got the nick name Carter's quarter. Because president Carter released them. But i still think the US has been copying Canada for some time now. Are dollar goes gold just like Canada, so you can see the difference. Canada did a Territories quarter , US does a state quarter. The US quarter has been different every year. Sounds like Canada. The US mint does make alot for sale now. The only way i see the dollar catch on here is when you can not buy anything with it. Who knows we still are making the 1 cent coin. To make and ship they cost from 3 to 7 cent to make. Lets here for the dummies'.
Yes worth i think you are right about the Presidential dollars, they seam to be common to find. I get alot from the soda machine at work.
Do you want the American Innovation dollar , it is just sitting on my desk. As have that one in my collection. Just send me a PM. Give it time you will found some. I have even found alot of the non circulating Native American dollars
I'm interested in some of your dollar coins . Check out my swap list.
Also in 1997 I found one of Russian 50 roubles with animals among ordinary bimetallic 50 roubles. But I don´t remember which one it was, and I sold it long ago.
The “presidential dollars” started as circulating issues, until 2011, but from 2012 they are non-circulating and mintages were reduced to about a tenth of what they had been before.
At least they kept the specifications (composition + diam.) the same so they can be used in vending machines…
EDIT — I have a question: Were the non-circulating coins from 2012 sold in any special wrapping? Could you obtain them at face value from the Mint or the banks?
The “presidential dollars” started as circulating issues, until 2011, but from 2012 they are non-circulating and mintages were reduced to about a tenth of what they had been before.
At least they kept the specifications (composition + diam.) the same so they can be used in vending machines…
EDIT — I have a question: Were the non-circulating coins from 2012 sold in any special wrapping? Could you obtain them at face value from the Mint or the banks?
They were sold at a slight premium by the mint. For instance the 2023 Native American $1 coin is sold at $34.50 for a 25 coin roll, $117.50 for a 100 coin bag, etc. I don't think you can get a specific coin at a bank but some might be mixed in rerolled rolls. Of course the mint included them in Proof and Mint sets.
They were sold at a slight premium by the mint. For instance the 2023 Native American $1 coin is sold at $34.50 for a 25 coin roll, $117.50 for a 100 coin bag, etc. I don't think you can get a specific coin at a bank but some might be mixed in rerolled rolls. Of course the mint included them in Proof and Mint sets.
Thx for the reply, rsirian1.
I suspect both in the US and Canada, some people buy rolls, end up opening them for individual sale or trade, and use the remainders in vending machines or elsewhere. Yet it's less of a situation in Canada since we already have a circulating dollar coin and, of course, no dollar paper note.
