Move from "Coins" to "Exonumia"

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Status: Rejected
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I've been thinking about this for quite some time: why do we still have under “Coins” pieces from entities that have NEVER issued a circulating coin, like some dot-size islands, or a so-called NCLTs from (mostly) African countries which could be defined as anything BUT a “legal” tender in those countries? (to those I'd happily add most Commonwealth countries, issuing more “coins” than postage stamps).

 

Global 2023 statistics best show this absurd situation: 

340 standard circulating coins issued

154 commemorative circulating coins

3553 NCLTs!

leaders in this trend:

UK: 1 standard, 1 commemorative, 354 NCLTs

Australia: 6 standard, 22 commemorative, 228 NCLTs

Coins being buried beneath ten times their weight under a heap of metal!

 

On the normal side of the spectrum are countries of the EU: 159 standard, 34 commemorative, 376 NCLTs) 

 

Let's clean the Coin section and move all those to Exonumia where they belong!

No, this should not be done. Exonumia are non legal tender tokens. 

Nin-circulated coins are still a legal tender and you can use it for payment.

 

Simple example mentioned above: UK 2023: there were only two different coins issued for circulation (one from new series of standard coins, one commemorative, both 50p) because there was no demand for more coins on the market. All other coins were issued as collector coins but you can always remove them from the package and use it in shop as normal coin.

I challenge you to go shopping with this abomination :

N#409105

Good luck! 

Dejan

I challenge you to go shopping with this abomination :

N#409105

Good luck! 

What some consider an abomination (I would use that word in other contexts, not when analyzing a coin) will seem wonderful to others, so I don't think that criterion is very valid to decide if a piece should be in the catalog or not. 

Whether we like it or not, I believe that the criteria for a piece to be in the "main" catalog is the correct one, and those pieces, in my opinion, should be there. Numista offers a series of tools to discriminate the coins that we do not want to see (see only circulating coins), so I don't quite understand what the problem is.

Obviously numismatics has changed a lot in recent years since the trend to pay with electronic money is becoming more and more prevalent, so mint houses have seen the opportunity to do business with collectors by issuing non-circulating coins. Whoever wants to collect and buy them and whoever doesn't want to, then let them focus on the coins in circulation.

We can see cases from centuries ago, such as the Centén of Spain, a coin that was manufactured on very specific occasions and in very low mintage, not for circulation but as gifts to important personalities. Should it also go to Exonumia?

N#111219

Coin referee for: Andorra, Equatorial Guinea, Marshall Islands, Moldova, Liberia and Spain
Banknote referee for: Andorra, Equatorial Guinea and Spain

Proposal to change bullion coins to a new category in Exonumia. "Bullion Coins"

 

Did not get much traction but is still open.

Hello,

 

We plan to reorganize the catalogue categories and remove the category “Exonumia”. See https://en.numista.com/forum/topic144308.html. The new categories still consider NCLTs as coins though.

 

If you are not interested in NCLTs, you can uncheck “Non-circulating coin” in the filter “Coin types”. Numista will remember your choice for the next search.

Status changed to Rejected (Xavier, 27 May 2024, 09:07)

oynbcn

 

We can see cases from centuries ago, such as the Centén of Spain, a coin that was manufactured on very specific occasions and in very low mintage, not for circulation but as gifts to important personalities. Should it also go to Exonumia?

N#111219

 

Of course! This coin is the best example of a “standard circulation” (so the catalogue says) coin at the time. Every household had a couple of these in their purse 🤣

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