Help identify copper two coins [solved]

Hi folks!

Please help identify two copper or maybe bronze coins:

First one have “VF” initials on the front, and what appears to be anchor on the back, below anchor on the right there is a date, I am not sure but I think its says 1881. It is 25mm and 2.76g

Second coin has initials “CR” and a crown on top of them. (Maybe Charles I or II?) and some heraldic on a back which I can’t recognize. its a 20mm and 2.5g.

Thanks!

Second coin pictures:

 Second coin is from Scotland, with the thistle emblem. 

You gave measurements for the first coin - what are they for this one? 

Lettering: CAR · D : G · SCOT · ANG · FRA · ET · HIB · R ·

Translation: Charles, by the Grace of God, King of Scotland, England, France and Ireland

 I put in bold the few letters visible. 

 On that reverse there is a large crown with large C R below - 

on yours the C is there on lower left. 

N#43965 [20mm] 

First one looks like might be a YF from Ysabella and Ferdinand, like the spanish Blancas

ZacUK

 Second coin is from Scotland, with the thistle emblem. 

You gave measurements for the first coin - what are they for this one? 

 

Lettering: CAR · D : G · SCOT · ANG · FRA · ET · HIB · R ·

Translation: Charles, by the Grace of God, King of Scotland, England, France and Ireland

 I put in bold the few letters visible. 

 

 On that reverse there is a large crown with large C R below - 

on yours the C is there on lower left. 

N#43965 [20mm] 

Zac I believe you nailed it. It is a 20mm coin and after reviewing your reference I agree that this is exactly the coin. Thank you very much Sir!

Geison

First one looks like might be a YF from Ysabella and Ferdinand, like the spanish Blancas

Thank you Geison. I will try to search that country/period based on your suggestion.

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11667375

Couldn't find in the Numista catalog though

Volchik

ZacUK

 Second coin is from Scotland, with the thistle emblem. 

You gave measurements for the first coin - what are they for this one? 

 

Lettering: CAR · D : G · SCOT · ANG · FRA · ET · HIB · R ·

Translation: Charles, by the Grace of God, King of Scotland, England, France and Ireland

 I put in bold the few letters visible. 

 

 On that reverse there is a large crown with large C R below - 

on yours the C is there on lower left. 

N#43965 [20mm] 

Zac I believe you nailed it. It is a 20mm coin and after reviewing your reference I agree that this is exactly the coin. Thank you very much Sir!

 Thanks. I was making these while you were writing … 

 Green is fairly certain, white is maybe, everything else unreadable. 

Reverse: 

Lettering: NEMO · ME · IMPVNE · LACESSET

Translation: No one shall hurt me with impunity 

Geison

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11667375

 

Couldn't find in the Numista catalog though

It looks very similar Sir. But weight doesn’t adds up. Auction coin says its 10g and my coin is only 2.76g. I will try to search smaller denominations like 2, 1 or ½ maravedi. At least I now know the country and time period its already huge help. Thank you!

ZacUK

Volchik

ZacUK

 Second coin is from Scotland, with the thistle emblem. 

You gave measurements for the first coin - what are they for this one? 

 

Lettering: CAR · D : G · SCOT · ANG · FRA · ET · HIB · R ·

Translation: Charles, by the Grace of God, King of Scotland, England, France and Ireland

 I put in bold the few letters visible. 

 

 On that reverse there is a large crown with large C R below - 

on yours the C is there on lower left. 

N#43965 [20mm] 

Zac I believe you nailed it. It is a 20mm coin and after reviewing your reference I agree that this is exactly the coin. Thank you very much Sir!

 Thanks. I was making these while you were writing … 

 

 Green is fairly certain, white is maybe, everything else unreadable. 

Reverse: 

Lettering: NEMO · ME · IMPVNE · LACESSET

Translation: No one shall hurt me with impunity 

Yes, my photos don’t show it as well as I can see with magnifying glass, but you are absolutely correct it is km100 coins. Great addition to my collection. Thank you!

Volchik

Geison

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11667375

 

Couldn't find in the Numista catalog though

It looks very similar Sir. But weight doesn’t adds up. Auction coin says its 10g and my coin is only 2.76g. I will try to search smaller denominations like 2, 1 or ½ maravedi. At least I now know the country and time period its already huge help. Thank you!

There are same coin with low weight, I guess they didn't care much about that in that period

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11873283

Geison

Volchik

Geison

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11667375

 

Couldn't find in the Numista catalog though

It looks very similar Sir. But weight doesn’t adds up. Auction coin says its 10g and my coin is only 2.76g. I will try to search smaller denominations like 2, 1 or ½ maravedi. At least I now know the country and time period its already huge help. Thank you!

There are same coin with low weight, I guess they didn't care much about that in that period

 

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11873283

They did:) Your first coin example was 4 maravedi and your second example is 2 maravedi. First one was around 10g and second one was 2.8g. And second coin Is exactly the coin I have. So thank you! I was not able to identify it without your help and it is rare coin actually. I am in luck:) Thank you very much!