Radarouton
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 18:16
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diameter: 33 mm material: copper (according to the seller)
ChineseCoins
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 19:31
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 19:31
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Closest I could find: N#43173
The diameter might not match.
Always happy to assist in any way!
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ZacUK
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 19:42
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 19:42
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Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Radarouton
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 19:47
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 19:47
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it's not a forgery is it?
I'd say this is the closest
N#27920
ZacUK
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 20:10
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 20:10
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The original, cropped and colour changed
to then compare to the four portraits
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
ZacUK
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 20:17
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 20:17
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Cannot be 1st - the II is not further round to the portrait top
Cannot be 3rd - the portrait is further away
The wreath at the top has three leaves on the 2nd and
two leaves on the 4th - but too hard to tell on the worn example.
Mostly likely is the 4th as the ribbon is shorter and facing the R letter.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Radarouton
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 20:41
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Posted: 11 May 2025, 20:41
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is it a counterfeit or legit?
ZacUK
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Posted: 12 May 2025, 03:42
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Posted: 12 May 2025, 03:42
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How can it be legit?
A genuine coin is silver - this is copper.
A counterfeit plated in silver to deceive.
Will see what other members think.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Napoleon1
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Posted: 12 May 2025, 04:01
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Posted: 12 May 2025, 04:01
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Radarouton
is it a counterfeit or legit?
It appears to show portions of silvering on the obverse, and also is approximately same size as Charles II half crown, so I also would say it is a contemporary counterfeit. I would also venture to guess it is a metal detecting find. Often after centuries in the ground the side of the coin, button, etc that is facing toward the surface of the soil will have little to no trace of silver or gold gilding, while the opposite side will retain a good percentage of gilt.. Although, since we know it is not a real half crown, it still has some numismatic value as a counterfeit of the time, unlike modern fakes.
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Radarouton
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Posted: 12 May 2025, 05:19
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So its a counterfeit alr, i'm assuming it's made during the reign of charles ii as well around the same date correct?
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Napoleon1
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Posted: 15 May 2025, 04:46
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Posted: 15 May 2025, 04:46
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Radarouton
So its a counterfeit alr, i'm assuming it's made during the reign of charles ii as well around the same date correct?
Yes, contemporary to the time of his reign.
colonialjohn
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Posted: 1 Ara 2025, 02:17
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Posted: 1 Ara 2025, 02:17
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Valuable CCC piece.
John P Lorenzo
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Posted: 1 Ara 2025, 11:37
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Posted: 1 Ara 2025, 11:37
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Yes, it’s a contemporary forgery.
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