What about these two @T.Twan , I know about as much as the correct orientation with these cash coins. I searched using weight and size but couldn’t find any with exact characters / text.
The large one is 5.8g, 28mm, Brass.
The small one is 2.0g, 20mm, Brass (but dirty).
Any ideas from anyone? Thanks in advance.
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The large one in this N#31487 It looks real. I can't tell you which Hartill it is. Best place to start when searching these cash coins is the mint. In this case it's Boo Ciowan. This is helpful to find the mint: https://en.numista.com/numisdoc/china-23.html
I don't recognize the small one at all. It looks funny.
What about these two @T.Twan , I know about as much as the correct orientation with these cash coins. I searched using weight and size but couldn’t find any with exact characters / text.
The large one is 5.8g, 28mm, Brass.
The small one is 2.0g, 20mm, Brass (but dirty).
Any ideas from anyone? Thanks in advance.
These two coins are authentic. The larger one is a Kangxi Tongbao of the Qing Dynasty, minted between 1662 and 1722. The inscriptions on its reverse are Manchu characters, indicating it was produced by the Baoquan Mint, the central imperial mint in Beijing.
The smaller one is a Guangxu Tongbao of the Qing Dynasty, struck from 1875 to 1908. The Manchu script on its reverse denotes it was minted at the Zhejiang Provincial Mint.
Feel free to consult me, my friend, if you have any ancient Chinese coins, or coins from other countries crafted in the style of Chinese ancient coinage.
Wow thanks @rsirian1 and @T.Twan that is some good work, most appreciated. Theses 3 coins (1 I identified myself) almost doubles the amount of Chinese cash coins I have, I never buy them specifically as I have no idea if they are real or not because of the casting method of minting, something that is common for all fake coins.
The small one has 3 sales available all for $500 or more! That is a surprise, not that mine is quite as nice as the ones available, but I will see what it looks like after restoration 😂 maybe I could sell it and buy a World Cup ticket.
Anyway thanks again, oh and the country info is good, I didn’t think to look there either 👍
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Wow thanks @rsirian1 and @T.Twan that is some good work, most appreciated. Theses 3 coins (1 I identified myself) almost doubles the amount of Chinese cash coins I have, I never buy them specifically as I have no idea if they are real or not because of the casting method of minting, something that is common for all fake coins.
The small one has 3 sales available all for $500 or more! That is a surprise, not that mine is quite as nice as the ones available, but I will see what it looks like after restoration 😂 maybe I could sell it and buy a World Cup ticket.
Anyway thanks again, oh and the country info is good, I didn’t think to look there either 👍
The $500 listings you saw are most likely rare varieties or high-grade certified coins, such as machine-struck Guangxu Tongbao, mother coins, trial pieces, or auspicious coin sets (ceremonial sets).
A common circulated Guangxu Tongbao like yours typically sells for around $8 in China. Yours is just a regular circulation coin, but it’s still a nice piece to have in your collection! 🤓
(I’m not too familiar with how these coins are priced in other countries, though😇😇😇）
Yeah I know, I was just wishfully thinking on the price. I am sure it is common old cash, even with a 79 NRI - I suspect most people just have trouble identifying it, like me.
One the topic of the small coin N#226864 , as there is just the 4 varieties referring to Tong in Tongbao, am I correct in thinking, the Tong is the left half of the bottom character and the dots the varieties are referring to are at the bottom of this character?
So this character 緒 , and the dots the varieties are referring to are the three lines at the bottom left, on the coin they are dots and the first is attached to the above script, leaving 2 dots or 1 dot?
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Yeah I know, I was just wishfully thinking on the price. I am sure it is common old cash, even with a 79 NRI - I suspect most people just have trouble identifying it, like me.
One the topic of the small coin N#226864 , as there is just the 4 varieties referring to Tong in Tongbao, am I correct in thinking, the Tong is the left half of the bottom character and the dots the varieties are referring to are at the bottom of this character?
So this character 緒 , and the dots the varieties are referring to are the three lines at the bottom left, on the coin they are dots and the first is attached to the above script, leaving 2 dots or 1 dot?
This is actually just a common variety of the Guangxu Tongbao. As you can see, coins from the late Qing Dynasty tend to be quite small in size. Additionally, each mother coin used to cast these circulation coins had slight differences, which is why the resulting pieces can look somewhat inconsistent from one another🤔
These are for the Emperor 光緒 (Guangxù) while these 寶通 are for Tongbao (Money) as shown in the China link I posted above. I think this is the Tong character 通.
From Hartill:
22.1410 two dots
22.1411 one dot
22.1412 one dot
22.1413 two dots
Ah yes, 寶 通 (Tongbao) and reading right to left also. Complicated, thanks for the Hartill reference images, I will definitely be able to decipher which variety it is from those. 👍
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