I received these coins today which Ed had sent for me to get an accurate description.
After placing this coin under a digital scope and enhancing the images you can see there does appear to be a neat dot and not any corrosion. unless corrosion is capable of making an exact circle the same size as the dot slightly below it, this is a strange yet true type with two dots to the right of the date.
I have also looked at another 1917 which was thought to be a no dot after date, but it is there after enhancing.
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Quote: "Fluke"I received these coins today which Ed had sent for me to get an accurate description.
After placing this coin under a digital scope and enhancing the images you can see there does appear to be a neat dot and not any corrosion. unless corrosion is capable of making an exact circle the same size as the dot slightly below it, this is a strange yet true type with two dots to the right of the date.
I have also looked at another 1917 which was thought to be a no dot after date, but it is there after enhancing.
Thank You Fluke - the 1917 10 centimes with 2 dots after date could be a new variety. I would like to hear the thoughts from the Belgium members or any other member. Ed
The 1917 25 centimes - dot before date only with a re punched 7 was put into the Numista catalog and if some one could remove it I would appreciate it. Fluke has proved there is a dote after the date. THANKs Ed
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I just hope the Belgium referee is a bit better than the French referee, because he would just say something like this:
"La lettre d'atelier qui n'est pas exactement au même endroit est très courant sur pas mal de monnaie française. Ce n'est pas une variante."
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Sorry, I'm joking, of course a die caused the the double dot (or in my case the different placement of a C on a 1944, 1 franc coin) and it's definitively a variant!
BRAVO for the forensic work on that non circulating coin. Very well done. A very intersting find!
Glad to help resolve the mystery. The two dot one did surprise me as I expected it to be some sort of surface bubbling but as soon as I got it under the scope it became clear something was there. after enhancing (by pixel processing, cut one pixel into 4, cut those 4 into16 and so on until a very smooth gradient is strong) the perfect circle emerged and exactly matched the dot that is meant to be there.
Very nice find Ed, I see no mention of it anywhere online. Numista could be the first to document this variety!
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I do like my WW1 zinc coins – I try to find them in VF or better condition -so- I look at them very very close and when I see something odd or out of place, I buy it.
I appreciate the kindness and knowledge shared by all the Numista members have given me. This is a great site to partake in. Thanks all Ed
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Ole was kind enough to document the new find - Belgium 1917 10 centimes with 2 dots after date . Fluke with his knowledge and expertise was very helpful in certifying the second dot was there. I thank all the members for their help on this new find. Ed
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