What is a new country? [solved]

Hey, didn't really know where to post this
So I thought about what it takes to get a new country in the catalough? Eg. Free Town Christiania has a lot of coin issued and is a micronation within the Kingdom of Denmark, with their own flag and yet they don't have a nation here under micronations (or other for that matter) I think a clarification of that, would be a good idea :)

As a side note, could Christania, Free town, be made a nation here in then, depending on what Numista defiene as a country/micronation? Declared in 1971 and has the "Løn" as their de jure currency.

Best regards
- Jamtrup

https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Flag_of_Christiania.svg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania

Looks more like a ghetto of potheads and an assortment of criminals then a "country".

I hate the whole notion of micronations in the catalogue. They are just ventures for people to make a buck and should not be on par with countries like the United States, France, Russia, or even failed states like Somalia or South Sudan. I think all micronations should all be removed as countries and their coins put in **Exonumia**.

That being said, the fact that some of these Christiania coins circulated puts them in a different category. I feel that they should be added as a currency under *Tokens*.

Quote: "Jamtrup"Declared in 1971 and has the "Løn" as their de jure currency.

So, their currency is called "salary"?

Hi,

micro nations can only be non coins, so the same as tokens....

I believe there is a common denominator for such coins, "Local tokens".
LP

Hey
Here are some of my thoughts on it: I think, if the coins are excangeable for goods and services, within a geographic area, then that area could/should be considered a (micro)nation or a kind of currency area on Numista. that would eliminate the small currency issuer, like Sealand, but let Free Town Christania be a issuer, since they cover more than, what? 5 people, using the currency? Sorry, don't know much about other micronations.

Then I think we also will be able to add Like eg. the (Utha) goldbacks, which have an actual exchangerate and are legal tender in many stores. Furthermore, if the area is recognised by more than one person (and family/friends) then I also think it could be more like an nation, than someones backyard. Like eg. Saborga or Lundy ().
at least to my understanding

By the way, what's the difference between exonumia and tokens, at least coin wise?

A thought to a sort of compromise, could be having micronations and alike under tokens (or exonumia?) like a sub-section, kind of like with:
Denmark:
- Denmark
- Greenland
- Faroese Islands

or

Australia
- Australia
- Australia - Colonial

Make it with some, if not all micronations? Also because I honestly miss some order in the tokens/exonumia.

Hopes it makes sense
Best regards
- Jamtrup

Little about the goldbacks
https://goldback.com/

It looks like Christiania is already a selectable issuer:


I have no idea when it was created, but I imagine it might have been created as a result of this old thread, where Christiania was identified as a place with actual circulating coins. With that being said, Christiania does not appear on the country list for coins or banknotes, meaning there are currently no coins or banknote listed under that country as of yet (issuers only appear after coins or banknotes are added to it).

All coins that are only available in certain packaging and/or have not any possibility of use in exchange for goods or services could be considered exonumia (paranumismatic). They are only intended for one category of customers.

Quote: "CREPOSUC"​All coins that are only available in certain packaging and/or have not any possibility of use in exchange for goods or services could be considered exonumia (paranumismatic). They are only intended for one category of customers.

​The "and/or" implies that something meeting either criteria would be in exonumia -- that would place most Proof issues and coin variations only found in set in exonumia. While I agree with the the concept, a proof issue is related to the circulation issue so a separate page in a separate section would be annoying.

(The meaning of your statement changes if "All coins" with "All types of coins", which might be what you meant.)

Quote: "Sjoelund"​​micro nations can only be non coins, so the same as tokens....

​Like Lundy, which has 10 "coin" entries and 5 entries in exonumia.