Authenticity of a coin: UK crown - Victoria -1897 (KM#783) [solved]

Hi,
I recently bought a coin on ebay - 1 crown, queen Victoria, 1897 (KM#783), which looks a bit suspicious:
Obverse has about 70% of queen's bust visible very well; reverse has almost all the details, very nice. Coin is obviously cleaned, but it's expected.
However, what's strange is, edge doesn't have anything on it - no regnal year. Moreover, it has a clearly visible seam all over it



Everything else about it seems normal - weight is 29g, diameter is 39.10 - a bit more than it should.
Is it normal? Is this coin likely authentic, or probably consists of two parts mounted together?

Thank you,
Sergey

Some pictures of the obverse and reverse might be helpful. I would also try to do a silver test: https://en.numista.com/numisdoc/determining-the-metal-of-a-coin-27.html

I'm very wary of that edge from an authenticity standpoint. Plus, with the details as you've described them you should expect to be underweight. The extra diameter bringing you up to correct weight (even a bit above) is a red flag for me.

Forgot to post actual coin's pictures, apologies.
Obverse:

Reverse

Yes, afraid everything points to a fake. The edge and width are pretty definitive. No reason whatsoever for the coin to be oversized or even that far overweight. Wasn't as easy to point it out from the design because so much detail is missing, but St. George is missing part of his cape and then the front of his helmet should be pointed at a 90 degree angle while they have it up diagonally. A decent attempt at the faking of the design, but yes, the edge and size give it away. Hopefully you can return it.

Excellent pictures! Unfortunately I think I'm now firmly decided that I'm looking at a fake. The reverse here is a bit of a mess. No amount of wear/polishing is going to give these weird proportions to St. George or the horse. It's probably most obvious when you compare the legs on the horse or St. George's neck between your piece and the Numista example.

Curious to see if someone else might have an explanation for the discrepancy, but if it were me I'd be trying to get a hold of the seller.

If it helps, the first Crown I ever bought ( https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces13172.html ) turned out to be a pretty blatant fake. I didn't realize it until years afterwards when I bought a scale and learned my lesson.

Regarding weight and size: take it with grant of salt, because I haven't measured it preciszely. I'll borrow proper equipment tomorrow and post it.

Regarding the pictures, comparing with what's at https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces12800.html I don't see obvious discrepanices, to be honest. It's clearly worn, and then polished, thus lots of details missing. The only thing which is truly out of wack is the edge, I can't possibly imagine how and why it could look like this.

Sergey

> It's probably most obvious when you compare the legs on the horse or St. George's neck between your piece and the Numista example.

I must agree that you're probably right. Also cap on my coin is cut at the top a bit, which should not be. Stll going to weight it properly, but I agree with assessment - it's most likely fake.

Thank you guys, appreciate your help
Sergey

Looks like a Shanghai mint issue


FAKE

without wanting to sound horrible, why on earth would you have bought this?