Coin Germany [solved]

Hello friends of Numista, this coin, I didn't find it in Krause or in Numista, is it a varient, does anyone know? FRIDERICVS.III.GO



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47210.html

Saxony

Quote: "Offa"​Saxony

​didn't you see the coin link? My question was, is it a varient.

I suspect counterfeit. What is the weight?

Edit: The lettering reverse does not look correct. Compared to a known example in high grade, the fonts of some words are not correct, and there are some problems in the word MEMOR and in the date (very uneven). Here is a side-by-side comparison that makes these differences quite clear. I've not compared the obverse as closely.

I can find a handful of examples of this coin online, but none with your obverse legend. So this also makes me suspicious. Yes, it is possible that a variant made with different dies would be a bit different on the reverse, too, but I don't think this is the case. But I am curious to hear the opinion of others who are more expert on coins from this era.

And I hope someone with a more specific catalog to this part of Germany will be able to check if this is a known variant in the obverse legend.

Quote: "tdziemia"​I suspect counterfeit. What is the weight?
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​Edit: The lettering reverse does not look correct. Compared to a known example in high grade, the fonts of some words are not correct, and there are some problems in the word MEMOR and in the date (very uneven). Here is a side-by-side comparison that makes these differences quite clear. I've not compared the obverse as closely.
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​I can find a handful of examples of this coin online, but none with your obverse legend. So this also makes me suspicious. Yes, it is possible that a variant made with different dies would be a bit different on the reverse, too, but I don't think this is the case. But I am curious to hear the opinion of others who are more expert on coins from this era.
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​And I hope someone with a more specific catalog to this part of Germany will be able to check if this is a known variant in the obverse legend.

​The difference is the letters of the obverse.

Those a handcut dies and there are often tonnes of different legends. When the cutter made the letters to big they shorten words or put them on the other side of design elements, forgot some letters, cut them the wrong way around and all kinds of spelling mistakes.

Quote: "Idolenz"​Those a handcut dies and there are often tonnes of different legends. When the cutter made the letters to big they shorten words or put them on the other side of design elements, forgot some letters, cut them the wrong way around and all kinds of spelling mistakes.

​thanks for the explanation, Idolenz, I also agree, several currencies of the German states of this time have some errors, you took my doubt.

Yes, I understand that your original post was asking about a variant of the obverse legend.

My point was that the other possibility is that this change was made by a counterfeiter. And I used the obvious differences I can see on the reverse as possible evidence of this (In addition to the size and sloppiness of the fonts not matching other known examples, the wreath has been executed with much less detail than other examples).

As I said in my earlier post, I understand this can be also be die variation, as pointed out by @idolenz. Perhaps the reverse die was given over to an apprentice in this case.

Quote: "tdziemia"​Yes, I understand that your original post was asking about a variant of the obverse legend.
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​My point was that the other possibility is that this change was made by a counterfeiter. And I used the obvious differences I can see on the reverse as possible evidence of this (In addition to the size and sloppiness of the fonts not matching other known examples, the wreath has been executed with much less detail than other examples).
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​As I said in my earlier post, I understand this can be also be die variation, as pointed out by @idolenz. Perhaps the reverse die was given over to an apprentice in this case.

​thanks for your contribution, every analysis is important.