There are fresh scammers every day, some have put a lot of intellegent work into setting up several accounts at different dates and different countries, just so they can ask each other leading questions to seem like they are safe.
It is too bad that it is this way but if there is a new member, I think, they should ship first before you send anything. This is only my opinion.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
redsmithstudious indeed told me about this and I could not agree better with him than anything else. I bet that there are people indeed taking cheating into account, and makes swaps harder and less trustful. Keep eyes open guys. We should have an option to report these acts and close such accounts!
I find that the best way to judge this is by communication. If they seem friendly, most of the time you know they aren't scammers, although i guess the really smart ones would act friendly on purpose. Also, the ones who have lots of valuable stuff for swap and accept your offer without any bargaining are likely to be swindlers.
Quote: eminemI find that the best way to judge this is by communication. If they seem friendly, most of the time you know they aren't scammers, although i guess the really smart ones would act friendly on purpose. Also, the ones who have lots of valuable stuff for swap and accept your offer without any bargaining are likely to be swindlers.
No, they act very nice, very polite, everything seems right. you need to be very very careful. they get on the forum and post all kinds of seemingly innocent questions, and will even talk about how we all need to be careful.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
Also Beware of people selling entire collections of very nice coins.
Don't send anyone money. If you want to buy something from someone new and send them the money, then I guess there is no point in warning you.
Quote: redsmithstudiosAlso Beware of people selling entire collections of very nice coins.
Don't send anyone money. If you want to buy something from someone new and send them the money, then I guess there is no point in warning you.
It's a question of common sense. Sounds too good to be true, than it can't be okay.
Long time ago and not that far away I did swap for the first time. No complaints so far.
What I try to say is that everybody should get a chance to swap, but don't do stupid things as sending high value coins without guarantees.
I do have 2 very simple rules:
- First swap with a new members max 10/12 common coins (no value).
- Swaps with a value superior to 50 euro, only by registered mail.
I do feel very comfortable with these rules. They work for me.
I am new here and I am agree to send first to the others. But also I need to be careful. I only send to users with excellent exchange feedback.
Regards.
I have made several swaps in the last month with new members with no problems, but I do request that they post 1st. If they are genuine collectors they will have no problem with this especially if you have a reasonable amount of feedback. This does still not guarantee that they are legit collectors as we have had members in the past with good feedback then suddenly they make some large swaps for expensive coins then disappear. I also make sure I insure the coins even when sending signed for delivery this way you won't lose out.
Quote: tony_k_1965I have made several swaps in the last month with new members with no problems, but I do request that they post 1st. If they are genuine collectors they will have no problem with this especially if you have a reasonable amount of feedback. This does still not guarantee that they are legit collectors as we have had members in the past with good feedback then suddenly they make some large swaps for expensive coins then disappear. I also make sure I insure the coins even when sending signed for delivery this way you won't lose out.
Tony, have you ever had to make a claim on the insurance?
The reason I ask is there is a huge crapstorm in US collecting circles about the USPS insurance and how it applies to numismatic items. They will happily accept your premium and if your very expensive BU 1909S Indian Head Cent gets lost they will equally happily refund you - face value. They don't distinguish between collectors coins and currency.
The only exception to this is if you have the coin appraised by a licenced coin dealer before mailing, not really practical or cost effective.
I hope the Royal Mail is a little more sensible but you might want to check on this to be on the safe side.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
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Hi Phil, I checked when I've posted as long as they are described as collectable coins and not just coins. Fortunately I have never had to for coins, but have done for bank notes just recently but that was also through Ebay so they have to refund the sale value. Thank you for your concern.
tony
Stop scaring people into not making swaps!!!! The average person on Numista is NOT a scammer. New collectors and Swappers just be careful.
Do swap. It is a fun way to give and receive coins and add to your collection!!
Do checkout the people you are swapping with. Read their feedback, check out the people who left the feedback.
Do make a few small swaps to start. Make a few low value swaps to get accustomed to the flow of swapping.
Do use Common Sense. If it looks too good to be true it probably is.
Do NOT be afraid to stop a swap. If someone or something makes you uncomfortable call off the swap.
Do NOT be afraid to ask questions. If you have questions ask!!!
Do NOT be afraid to make requests. If you want someone to get a tracking number ask them to all they can do is say no.
If you follow these guidelines you can protect yourself reasonably well from scammers and still have FUN swapping!!!!
Give me a dozen men who are not afraid to die, and I'll accomplish what all the Generals & Admirals with all their Armies & Battleships cannot. -Otto Skorzeny the best special forces commander ever.
Yes Edgar, this is good advice, certainly swapping is a lot of fun and worth some risk. If you swap enough, you will lose somehow, like to the post.
But it is worth a little loss to swap with friend's around the world
When I wrote this it was because of the large volume of members complaining to having lost out. But I certainly don't want to discourage new swappers, just be careful.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
