Annam/Vietnam  7 Tien Tu Duc

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gros Catalogue referee
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Posted: 8 Ekim 2021, 17:02 #
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Hello

I can't find anything on this coin / token
Seems to be silver
diameter 44/45 mm
weight 26.45g
the edge has been damaged / redone




Thank you for your help
oynbcn Catalogue referee
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Posted: 8 Ekim 2021, 17:56 #
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Is similar to that one:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces16058.html

But the weight does not match...I don't know
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gros Catalogue referee
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Posted: 8 Ekim 2021, 20:19 #
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Yes I have seen it but as you said not the good weight...
Mr. Midnight Catalogue referee
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Posted: 9 Ekim 2021, 02:14 #
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was the original coin cast?
This one is clearly a pot metal casting.
Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac
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Posted: 9 Ekim 2021, 09:05 #
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Quote: "Mr. Midnight"​was the original coin cast?
​This one is clearly a pot metal casting.
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​Yes
Asia coins are made by casting
1870 for the first tests of minted coins
gros Catalogue referee
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Posted: 9 Ekim 2021, 23:35 #
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Hello

Find it

It's could be a 7 Tien Tu Duc wich is not yet on numista (I'd like too have a real one.... even in bad condition..... and to be able to make a new file):8D

Find this one(8
But I see that the number of rays of the sun are not the same but the character at the top is the same
and this second one
Rays of sun are good But the upper and left characters are differents


Do not hesitate if you find another because Ngc and my World coins only provide drawings
The representation of my WC is also different than NGC but I have an old one from 1998
Thank you

Guillaume
jane6301
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Posted: 10 Ekim 2021, 06:17 #
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Actual coin from PCGS



don't think you have a genuine coin there, diameter is way off, lack detail
gros Catalogue referee
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Posted: 10 Ekim 2021, 07:37 #
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Hello

Thanks to have providing picture
but not the same ruler (Minh Mang and Thieu Tri)
mine is Tu Duc
jane6301
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Posted: 10 Ekim 2021, 15:54 #
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Posted: 10 Ekim 2021, 16:11 #
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Hey Gros,
My guess is that you have a Vietnam War Era (or later) copy of a Tu Duc 7 Tien coin. The weight is a tad off and the milling on the edges seems a bit crude to me. The silver Nguyen Dynasty coinage was not cast but instead milled.

Although I don't think your piece is original, it's still super neat and historical!

I recommend this video from Coinpicker to view genuine examples: https://youtu.be/eBhOLTtYwt0

Hope this helps,
Harrison
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Posted: 11 Ekim 2021, 18:53 #
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Quote: "jane6301"​
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​Thanks jane6301
I really appreciate
gros Catalogue referee
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Posted: 11 Ekim 2021, 19:02 #
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Hi Harisson

Your explanation seems quite correct as well as that of jane6301
I'll try to look a little more on my side but I'm not deluding myself too much
Appreciate to learn every day
I have seen your link
Mr Coinpicker have an incredible collection......

Thank you all for your answers

Guillaume
gaubien
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Posted: 6 Nis 2026, 17:32 #
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Is that the one you talked about?

 

may I ask if this coin (in the pictures) is genuine?

 

thanks

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