solicitudes de organización, modificación y más de monedas de patrón mexicano. Orden Cronologuico .

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This message aims at: requesting the creation or the modification of an issuer in the catalogue

Status: Rejected
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El orden cronologuico de mexico es erroneo.

La cronologuia del catalogo se basa alparecer en un contexto monetario.
Real (1535-1897)
Peso (1863-1992)
Peso nuevo (1992-fecha)
Lingotes de plata Lingotes de
oro Lingotes de
platino

Pero esta organicasion puede ser confuso para los nuevos coleccionista por esos propongo que se incluye esta cronologia, esta organicasion esta basada en un contexto histórico.



Colonia Española (1521-1821)

Guerra de Independencia (1810-1821)

Primer Imperio Mexicano (1821-1823)

Primera Republica (1823-1863)

Segundo Imperio Mexicano (1863-1867)

Segunda República (1867-1905)

Peso (1905-1992)

Nuevos Pesos (1992-Hasta La Fecha)

Lingotes De Plata

Lingotes De Oro

Lingotes de Platino

Con respecto a las monedas revolucionarias, estan bien organizadas. Este orden de cronológico no solo para los patrones si no para todas las monedas de mexico.
Hola, creo que has hecho un muy buen trabajo de orden cronológico de la historia de México y yo opino como tú: para mi el Catálogo debería subdividirse en cada uno de los períodos históricos del país. Así es como está en Krause y en la mayoría de catálogos online, pero no creo que ahora Numista cambie su criterio ya que afectaría a todo el Catálogo (no solo a México), por lo que creo que tu propuesta no será aceptada.
Como ya acabo de comentar, la numismática y la historia están muy relacionados, y no diferenciar los períodos históricos para cada uno de los diferentes sistemas monetarios no es, a mi entender, excesivamente lógico.

Hello, I think you have done a very good job of chronological order in the history of Mexico and I think as you do: for me the Catalog should be subdivided into each of the country's historical periods. This is how it is in Krause and in most online catalogs, but I don't think that now Numista changes its criteria that would affect the entire Catalog (not just Mexico), so I think your proposal will not be accepted.
As I have just mentioned, numismatics and history are closely related, and not differentiating the historical periods for each of the different monetary systems is not, in my opinion, excessively logical.
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Hello,

Thank you for the suggestion.

On Numista, there is a distinction between forms of government (e.g. republic, empire, etc) and currencies (e.g. real, peso). You can organise the catalogue using either criterion with the Display options menu:

You can also use the filters to select a ruling authority (e.g. United Mexican States), and then group the coins by currency (peso, new peso, etc) for example.


These options should give you a lot of freedom to organise and sort the catalogue, more than you would have with a printed book for sure. Your suggestion is to mix ruling authorities and currencies, which is not good practice in my opinion and I don't think it will be implemented in Numista.

Specifically regarding the ruling periods of Mexico, I believe they are all in the database, albeit slightly different from what you propose:


I believe the only significant difference is the split between the first (1823-1863) and second (1867-1905) republic. This is because it would result in some odd situations with coins like these:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15077.html
These were issued indiscriminately during the republican period, before 1863 and after 1867. Furthermore, I am not sure if your periodisation is universally accepted. According to Wikipedia, the second republic was established in 1846.

Finally, there is a thread open here:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic105329.html#p870414
For expanding the Mexican section with local issuers. These would cover the War of Independence period.

:wiz:
Hola.

Gracias por su apoyo, es una lástima que no se pueda ordenar de forma cronológica, aunque siento que se pueden rescatar algunas ideas.

Propuesta 1.

Como lo dijo oynbcn, el orden cronológico es importante en la numismática, y para mi la época de la guerra de independencia debería estar en el catalogo ,me gusta la idea que usted puso en el hilo, y el orden regional esta correcto es por eso que he votado por la idea, esto porque se me hace muy ilógico que si se dividan los ejemplares de la revolución mexicana y no las de la independencia.

Hello.

Thank you for your support, it is a pity that it cannot be ordered chronologically, although I feel that some ideas can be rescued.

Proposal 1.

As oynbcn said, the chronological order is important in numismatics, and for me the time of the war of independence should be in the catalog, I like the idea that you put in the thread, and the regional order is correct that is why I have voted for the idea, this because it makes me very illogical that if the copies of the Mexican Revolution are divided and not those of the independence.
Hello,

Thank you again, but I think we can close this ticket as there is not much to be done here. To display coins in chronological order, or group them by period, you can use the Display options.

For the War of Independence issuers, we can merge this request into the existing one:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic105329.html#p870414

:wiz:
Status changed to Rejected (stratocaster, 14 Ocak 2022, 08:41)

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