Please correct dates of currency. [solved]

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For Bolivia currency, Sol, and First Bolivano currencies need to be fixed dates.

Currently Sol show dates 1827-1864, and First Boliviano 1864-1963

Correct dates are Sol 1827-1869, and First Boliviano 1870-1963.

I think the mistake was caused for some First Boliviano patterns were minted on 1868, 2 years before coinage reform.

Thanks in advance.
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What are THESE then?
According to Wikipedia and Krause (and some coins of Numista showed by Idolenz), I think it should be:



Sol / Scudo Coinage (1827-1864)
8 Soles = 1 Peso / 16 Soles = 1 Scudo

First Boliviano (1864-1963) 1 Boliviano = 8 Soles = 1/2 Scudo
From 1864 to 1870 - 1 Boliviano = 100 Centecimos / Centesimos
From 1870 to 1963 - 1 Boliviano = 100 Centavos
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Quote: "oynbcn"​According to Wikipedia and Krause (and some coins of Numista showed by Idolenz), I think it should be:



Sol / Scudo Coinage (1827-1864)
​8 Soles = 1 Peso / 16 Soles = 1 Scudo

First Boliviano (1864-1963) 1 Boliviano = 8 Soles = 1/2 Scudo
​From 1864 to 1870 - 1 Boliviano = 100 Centecimos / Centesimos
​From 1870 to 1963 - 1 Boliviano = 100 Centavos
​Hi Oscar.
Yes, you have a good point.
Confusion starts on the currecy reform, as it was performed by 3 different laws (one of them deleted owing to political reasons).
I am searching data from Central Bank of Bolivia, so I will modify the request.
I think, and you will agree, BCB is the most accurate source for thi issue.
You can see the data at bcb.gob.bo/?q=museo-virtual&field_seleccione_grupo_mv_tid=616&page=15
text is in Spanish, but you can read it easily, pages 16 to 24 explain the details.
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So if I understand correctly the request is now for three currencies:

Sol (1827-1864)
8 Soles = 1 Peso • 16 Soles = 1 Scudo

First Boliviano (1864-1870)
1 Boliviano = 8 Soles = 1/2 Scudo = 100 Centesimos

First Boliviano (1870-1963)
1 Boliviano = 8 Soles = 1/2 Scudo = 100 Centavos
Hello.

What means?
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I performed an investigation, and here are my results:

First, we know Krause is a good source of general and basic information, but is usual to find mistakes, when is not about U.S. or European coins, so must be taken more as a guide than to data source.

Additionally, Wikipedia is created via users contributions, so, there is no warranty the data contained be highly accurate, and is highly possible to find mistakes. Different to Krause, when mistakes are detected and posted to administrators, they are usually corrected.

So, my search was based on the Banco Central de Bolivia (Bolivian Central Bank - BCB), as in their web page they have an historical section about coins and bank notes.

These years (1863-1870) were complicated, owing to Melgarejo revolt, and decrees and laws being created and deleted.

What I found is on June 29th., 1863, under the administration of José María de Acha, was issued the law with currency reform (Boliviano, later known as First Boliviano), and also the adoption of decimal metric system. In the law, also were stated the existence of gold Onzas and Escudos (ounces and Scudos), and the equivalence of value from the previous currency (5/4)

First coins of the new currency have 1864 year issued.

On October 12th., 1869, the provisional president (revolutionary) Mariano Melgarejo, issued a new law, expanding the law form 1863, as he considered it was incomplete. This law was deleted by the new government after Melgarejo lapse, and then they issued a new law, that had almost the same contents as the Melgarejo one.

Also, on 1864 to 1868 were issued Melgarejo coinage, that really were medals, but with same weight as coins, so were widely used as coins, so they are considered a currency.

So correct dates of currencies are:

Sol: 1827-1863 (no Sol currency coins were issued after 1863)
1 Peso=8 Soles / 1 Scudo=16 Soles.

First Boliviano: 1864-1963
1 Peso=1 Bolivano
1864-1871: 1 Gold Ounce=17.5 Bolivianos
1864-1871: 1 Gold Scudo=1.75 Bolivianos

1872-1963: 1 Gold Scudo=2 Bolivianos
1872-1963: 1 Bolivar=10 Bolivianos

1864-1869: 1 Boliviano=100 Centésimos (or Centécimos, misspelled on the coins)
1870-1963: 1 Boliviano=100 Centavos

No Sol denomination in this period.

Hope this make things clear, so I'm going to take something for my headache.

Regards,
Daniel.
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Status changed to Started (pejounet, 3 Mart 2022, 02:42)
Status changed to Done (Jarcek, 2 May 2022, 09:37)
This is done as far as I can see. I only updated subdivisions of first Boliviano. <:D
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