Silver coin with cross on shield [solved]

Hello, i could really use some help identifying this coin.
The diameter is 15mm.

I think of places like Savoy, Teutonic Order and Malta for cross-on-shield like this, but did not see any obvious match in our catalog. I'm sure there are other places. Are able to see (or guess) what is in the center of the other side?

Can you see any of the legends with the coin in hand? From the photos we can see a few letters here and there. On shield side it looks like GL to start the legend, maybe IX around 7:00 and an E a few letters after

With a cross like that it should be from the Archbishopric of Cologne. But which coin exactly im not sure.

on the cross side
i can make out on the top right maybe G L O
and from the left bottom EXCE and then an L or D

on the other side on the bottom maybe a cross and across the left from the bottom to the top maybe REBVR T B

Found it almost, my mistake not Cologne but Freiburg

not same but very similar.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces184374.html

https://www.ma-shops.de/schimmer/item.php?id=80349

Quote: "FransHendrix"​on the cross side
​i can make out on the top right maybe G L O
​and from the left bottom EXCE and then an L or D
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​on the other side on the bottom maybe a cross and across the left from the bottom to the top maybe REBVR T B

​ GLORIA IN EXCEL DEO

[Yellow = sure, Green = worn; Pink = missing]

The other side I have got FRIBVR BRI so far, for Freiburg im Breisgau ...

Not sure of rotation or others letters yet.
Though maybe that third image is correct rotation, with raven head feathers hanging down.
Yes, I have seen a 2 Kreuzer coin, 17.1mm diameter, and it has that orientation,
plus the head divided the denomination, with 2 on the left, and K on the right.
It also has the date (1723) on top left.

Possibly this, though with no pictures ...
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-freiburg-im-breisgau-2-kreuzer-km-90-1720-1723-cuid-1143884-duid-1346197
and the head is in a circle not oval - so may not be it.

Thank you very much for the great help i think it is a 1712 1 Kreuzer

Yes, I see 1712 now ...

Diameter 15mm like you say, so I guess your 1 Kreuzer is that size.
Still not yet sure of missing letters. Still looking ...

This has both sides with a beaded circle surrounding central image ...
https://www.ma-shops.de/kohlross/item.php?id=36530
Schweiz - Freiburg im Breisgau 1 Kreuzer 1712 Rabenkopf

Amazing, thank you very much. I think I will make a page on the coin

Finished, I think ...

MOR FRIBVR BRISG 1712 1K // GLORIA IN EXCEL DEO

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-freiburg-im-breisgau-kreuzer-km-70-1712-1713-cuid-1143977-duid-1346788

Reverse:
GLORIA IN EXCEL DEO
GLORIA IN EXCELSIS DEO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_in_excelsis_Deo


Still working on obverse translations ...
MOR FRIBVR BRISG 1712 1K

... FREIBURG IM BREISGAU
Year: 1712
Denomination: 1 Kreuzer

https://www.coingallery.de/stadt/f/freib.htm
Another source

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces318158.html
I posted it in the catalog

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Coins-Paper-Money/Europa-C-amp-O-Nr-330-Freiburg-im-Breisgau-1-Kreuzer-Silver-Date/td-p/27252940

Quotes therefrom>
The raven's head is a local 'emblem' of Freiburg im Breisgau, in Germany.
Silver mines discovered in Mount Schauinsland, near Freiburg im Breisgau,
made it one of the richest cities in Europe. Until the silver was exterminated.
A numeral 1 is at 12 o'clock. This is connected with the K located at 6 o'clock.
In other words, the denomination of 1 K[reuzer] is spliced into the legends.
Reverse: At center is Christian Cross in shield.

Just looked again, and it is not MOR but MON lettering, for MONETA NOVA
​which translates as 'new money'. Amended picture ...

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