Help with German coin identification [solved]

Have this coin in my collection but I can not find it in the catalog and am not sure of its source. It’s fairly worn, but it looks like it is from the Electorate of Saxony, Ernestinian Line based on the coin pictures in the catalog. There is a one pfennig listed without a picture that may be my coin, but it doesn’t look like any of the others listed unless it’s missing from the catalog or I have misidentified it. If anyone has any info to help that would be great.

Thanks,

Anthony

Your coin is Saxe-Kurlin. Dreier from 1535. The obverse of the coin shows only 5 of the date. But on the reverse there is a mint mark "lily"

https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=5342087&AucID=6036&Lot=2822&Val=8bb66421f6fef5750aa5cc20f3059bcb

Mariusz, so the only difference between OP's coin, Saxe-Kur Line (Ernestiner Line) and this one (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces142672.html, Saxe-Albertine Line) is the mint mark?

Thanks for the confirmation Mariusz.

I didn’t see Saxr-Kurline in the catalog, but Essor Prof posted a link to the catalog that looks like the right coin. Is this the correct one?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces142672.html

QuoteEssor Prof​Mariusz, więc jedyną różnicą między monetą OP, Linia Saxe-Kur (Linia Ernestiner) a tą ( https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces142672.html , Linia Saxe-Albertine) jest znak mennicy?

​Where did I write that the mint mark is the difference? I added another material for analysis. Please explain the differences ...

Quote: "Mariusz"​​​Where did I write that the mint mark is the difference?

​I've noticed you are much more experienced in these kind of coins than I am. So it was just a question from me to you. To me the OP's coin is the same as the one in the link I've posted, except for the mint mark. But the one in the link only mention the "star with cross" mint mark, not the "lily" mint mark. The one in the link is considered to be from the Saxe-Albertine Line while the other, in my opinion the same coin except for the mint mark, is considered to be from the Saxe-Kur Line (Ernestiner Line). So is the mint mark defining the issuer or do I miss something?

To begin with, this coin in the Numista catalog is misplaced, it is not the Albertine line
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces142672.html
"John Frederick I (German Johann Friedrich I. der Großmütige, born June 30, 1503 in Torgau, died March 3, 1554 in Weimar), known as the Magnificent. He was the eldest son of the Saxon Elector John of the Ernestinian line of the Wettins; mother, Sophia of the princes Mecklenburg at Schwerin, she died 14 days after his birth. His teacher was Georg Spalatin ... "
The Ernestinian line was awarded the title of Saxon elector in 1485. She lost the electorate in 1547 to the Albertine Line.
Regards Mariusz

Quote: "Mariusz"​To begin with, this coin in the Numista catalog is misplaced, it is not the Albertine line

​Thank you very much for the info, this explains already a lot. Can you make a change request to correct this mistake?
I still have a few other question:
- Saxe-Kur Line, is that just another name for the Saxe-Ernestinian Line or is there a substantial difference?
- So OP's coin is the same as in my link (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces142672.html) and known dates with the "lily" mint mark should be added there?

My knowledge is small. I'm still learning. Sachsen-Kurlin is not the same as the Ernestinian line. Kurlin can be translated as the electoral line of the House of Saxony. From 1485 to 1547, common coins were minted in Saxony, with a short break in the years 1530-33, when the Albertine line demanded that the coin be spoiled and the silver content decreased. Second question - this is not the same coin. Lilija means a monk in the city of Freiberg under the management of Hans Hausmann.