Rejection appeals follow-up [solved]

Hi Catalog Administrators

On 7 April I submitted two elongated coins to the exonumia catalog.

(For those who don't know, elongated coins are now allowed in the exonumia catalogue. You can see the current listings here. I think the inclusion of elongated coins is an excellent decision.)

Unfortunately, the referee did not know that elongated coins were allowed and summarily rejected my submissions. I discussed this with him and we both now agree that these submissions should be accepted into the catalogue.

So, I used the "appeal" button, and the message that appeared assured me that appeals would be reviewed within 7 days. That was on 9 April. It is now 16 April. Seven days have passed and my appeal has not been acknowledged.

I'd like to follow up on that - perhaps nudge a senior catalog administrator into reviewing my appeals. Unfortunately, I don't know where the appeals go so I cannot contact someone directly.

I'd also like to ask if I should hold out hope for my appeal to be processed, or if I should just resubmit my elongates in new requests. At least in this case, that would have been faster.

With thanks for your time,

Andrew

Hi Andrew

Just wait a bit more time and it will be dealt with; it's a new process so still need a couple tweaks before running smoothly.

Quote: "pejounet"​Hi Andrew
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​Just wait a bit more time and it will be dealt with; it's a new process so still need a couple tweaks before running smoothly.

​Thank you! I appreciate the reassurance and will trust the system. 👍🏻

When you make an appeal where does this show in your account? I made an appeal if I remember, but can't see where I can find out what I appealed...

I haven't done it myself but it is most likely that you won't see anything, like referees can't see requests they approved/rejected/send back for correction.

Wouldn't it be interesting to note in the remarks of an elongated coin what the host coin was?

As far as there is any numismatic interest in elongated coins, it would be precisely that, I guess.

(I'm not a fan of elongated coins myself but unconditionally tolerant towards people who are)

Quote: "ArnoV"​Wouldn't it be interesting to note in the remarks of an elongated coin what the host coin was?
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​As far as there is any numismatic interest in elongated coins, it would be precisely that, I guess.
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​(I'm not a fan of elongated coins myself but unconditionally tolerant towards people who are)

​It would but, at least in South Africa, I've never seen an elongating machine that takes real coins. This is partially because it is illegal to deface our money, and partially because we moved to steel-cored coins in the early 1990s. The machines here all supply a featureless metal disk for elongation and imprinting.

Hello,

The appeal process has been improved last week, which will help future appeals to be processed more quickly.
There are no more pending appeals at the moment.

I handle the appeals personally for the moment. It's good to contact the referee directly for clarification before submitting an appeal.

andrewdotcoza

Quote: "ArnoV"​Wouldn't it be interesting to note in the remarks of an elongated coin what the host coin was?
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​As far as there is any numismatic interest in elongated coins, it would be precisely that, I guess.
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​(I'm not a fan of elongated coins myself but unconditionally tolerant towards people who are)

​It would but, at least in South Africa, I've never seen an elongating machine that takes real coins. This is partially because it is illegal to deface our money, and partially because we moved to steel-cored coins in the early 1990s. The machines here all supply a featureless metal disk for elongation and imprinting.

Exactly!
The experience I've had with these machines (first time at Niagara Falls African Lion Safari in 1997) was that you put a dollar (or toonie, as the local says) and then the machines produces the one you have chosen (I think there was like three different designs). I still have it somehwere. Will see if I can find it and post a picture.

This was made from a totally different piece of metal, and had nothing to do with the coin you put it. If it would be the defaced coin coming out, the designs wouldn't be that clear, since the coin's design would we visible as well (as in overstruck coins). And like Andrew said, in many countries it's illegal to deface coins. So to me these are just a  metal souvenir piece. Fun to have, but not really a numismatic item. 

Yes, I found it! Plus another one! 😄

 

Xavier

Hello,

The appeal process has been improved last week, which will help future appeals to be processed more quickly.
There are no more pending appeals at the moment.

I handle the appeals personally for the moment. It's good to contact the referee directly for clarification before submitting an appeal.

I put in an appeal the day before Xavier wrote this and I'm still waiting for a response (over a month now). Is there a bug in the system? This is a link to the appeal:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/contributions/voir_ajout.php?id=5967735