Hiberno Norse coins of Ireland, a separate issue. [solved]

From what I see, currency is the same, but once you sort by rulling authorities, division is there. We are not adding curencies to separate eras/rulling authorities.

Please note that currency order is broken, it will be ok tommorow.

I disagree with you on this. I will consult with numismatic colleagues and come back to the topic in the future with a fully researched response.

It is an uneducated guess, based on how coins before Normans and after them use same names and coin technical and visual similarities. Although I find it weird that same currency would be used for 900 years.

I think the Viking Kingdom of Dublin also had coins as well.

I know none of the High Kings of Ireland ever had coins struck for them, as far as I am aware.

Aidan.

I had a chat on this matter over the weekend with one of my friends who has collected the early Irish coinage for around 30 years.

We are of the opinion that simply because the coins were called ‘pennies’ does not imply that the unit of currency was contiguous from the Hiberno Norse period [http://www.irishcoinage.com/HAMMERED.HTM] through to 1826.

Management of currency production in Ireland degenerated to a large degree in the period after the Phase 3 coinage. By phase 3, the legend on the coins had degenerated into symbols rather than a language.

The most significant factor affecting convertibility between Irish coinage and other coinage in this period was the weight of the coins themselves.

The standard weight ’penny’ ceased to be more or less from Hiberno Norse Phase 3 onwards, as less silver was present in the coins. 

Bracteates [https://www.britannica.com/topic/bracteate-coin] replaced the earlier Irish coins. They still retained the core design of the long cross. I would argue that the Irish bracteates were the end of the pre-Norman coinage, and a separate currency from that of Norman period in Ireland which commenced from the time of John, as Lord and then as King, 1180 onwards.

Ok, where should we draw the line? Or more precisely, when.

I would suggest:

circa995 - circa 1150, currently accepted as the Hiberno Norse period, with seven phases, as being a separate section. 

1180 onwards, starting with John as Lord, as being the Anglo-Irish period. 

As we just added the currencies, is this sorted?

The Hiberno Norse pennies are coming up under Second Irish Pound:
N#322881

as are the Norman coins:
N#333691

I guess this will fix itself with the nightly server cleanup, with their currencies taking over.

No, I just added currencies and renamed the one we had to Second Irisih pound, so coins that do not belong there needs to be moved.

Got it.

Hiberno-Norse Penny is displaying in French in the english language version.

Looks normal apart from that.

… I mixed the languages by accident, should be ok now.

No worries!