We have a number of notes issued by individual American states, either as colonies from before 1776 or from members of the Confederacy during the civil war. We could really do with separating these from the main USA section. (The issues of the CSA itself now have their own issuer.) Do we want to have a group of issuers within the existing Pre-Federal section and a separate list of "Confederate States" or would we rather have a single issuer for each colony/state?
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
US collectors often refer to these issues as ‘Broken Banks’ or ‘Obsolete Currency’. As a collector of US notes, imho, these notes should be given their own section, separate from US government notes (which should also be sub-divided), and sub-listed by issuer or by denomination. The precedent on Numista is to sub-list by denomination rather than by issuer.
There are several main divisions that US notes ought to be divided into.
US notes need one or more referees who are seasoned collectors of the notes, and understand the way in which they are collected and are organised by collectors.
We tend to divide along geo-political lines. Are you suggesting splitting U.S. Notes from Federal Reserve Notes or Silver Certificates? For me, these should be noted in the title, like we do for the different banks for Ireland or Scotland, with the appropriate issuer given (i.e., Treasury, Federal Reserve, etc.). I'd still like to see an option to sort by issuer but, for now, we do at least have filter by issuer.
For the broken banks (and indeed the National Currency issues), we could do with deciding how to organize them before we have too many listed. I'd be inclined towards listing by state but I'm open to suggestions.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
I suggest that we list notes (and perhaps some coins as well) by state and then separate colonial, territorial, state, and confederate issues by ruling authority. For example, Virginia would be listed as:
British Colony (1606-1776)
American State (1777-date)
Confederate State (1861-1865)
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Continental Currency Broken Banks = Obsolete Currency Confederate notes US Government notes = All notes issued after the establishment of the Federal Reserve system - these were backed by the US government regardless of the actual Issuing Authority.
We're now talking about the issues of the “United Colonies” (May 1775 - February 1777) and the “United States” (May 1777 - January 1779) which can be found here. Together they comprise the Continental Currency. It makes no sense to split the two periods completely, we just need to ensure they are assigned to the correct ruling authority. For me, these should be at the beginning of the main USA section.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
We're now talking about the issues of the “United Colonies” (May 1775 - February 1777) and the “United States” (May 1777 - January 1779) which can be found here. Together they comprise the Continental Currency. It makes no sense to split the two periods completely, we just need to ensure they are assigned to the correct ruling authority. For me, these should be at the beginning of the main USA section.
The United Colonies issues up to May 1776 goes under ‘King George III - 1760-76’.
The ones dated later than 4 July 1776 (date of America's declaration of independence) goes under 'United States (since 1776).
For the Numista catalogue on US banknotes to be relevant to collectors of US notes, I think it should follow the accepted means of listing the notes. This would put Continental Currency as a section.
Status changed to Rejected(Jarcek, 20 Haz 2022, 14:16)
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