Possibly Swiss coins? [solved]

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Can anyone recognize these two coins? They’re really make me confused. I think they’re maybe medieval Swiss coins. Yet I can’t find terms on Numista.

 

N#107170

Mariusz

N#107170

Are these two coins same type? And do you know how the spikes on the four corners are formed?

It's a thin square planchet hit with a round die I would think.

These are also nicknamed Vierschlagpfennig https://www.reppa.de/lexikon/vierschlagpfennige

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Status changed to Solved (PALPATINE, 7 Kas 2023, 15:05)

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