Aluminium bronze vs Copper-aluminium

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On the Compositions translation page there are these different alloys:

  • 10 aluminium bronze (Q447546)
  • 32 copper-aluminium

 

But the Wikidata page https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q447546 say “copper-aluminium” is another name for “aluminium bronze”. It is estrange but… Are these names the same alloy or not?
 

Perhaps the confusion in Wikidata is due to the fact that bronze is an alloy of copper+tin (10-12%)+other

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Aluminum bronze and tin bronze are two copper alloys with either aluminum or tin as the major alloying element.  Tin bronze is much older and because of that the term “bronze” came to be the common name used for tin bronze.

 

Copper-aluminum alloy is not really well defined as there are copper-aluminum alloys that aren't considered “aluminum bronzes.”  I'd stick with the term “aluminum bronze" and not use copper-aluminum anywhere.

Hello,
I agree that aluminium bronze and copper-aluminium should be merged.
Unless someone raises a good reason to keep them distinct, I'll replace all occurrences of copper-aluminium by aluminium bronze in the coming days.

Similarly, I will merge Copper-aluminium-nickel into Aluminium-nickel-bronze.

Maybe while you're there change Bronze-nickel to Nickel bronze to group it with the other nickels?

While we are at it:

  • AcmonitalStainless Steel (Acmonital) - move the name to additional details
  • BakelitPlastic or Polymer (Bakelit)
  • BronzitalAluminiumbronze or Aluminium-nickel-bronze (Bronzital)
  • Nordic Gold Aluminiumbrass (Nordic Gold) - can we finally get rid of the missleading Gold in a main material that doesn't contain any Gold (the same was true for German Silver)
  • TombacBrass (Tombac) - there are so many different Tombac alloys you simply could put it as generic Brass with additives
  • VireniumCopper-nickel-zinc (Virenium)
  • ZamakZinc aluminium/Aluminium-zinc (Zamak) - technically ZnAlMgCu

 

Also much of the ancient special stuff are just words for dirty Brass and Bronze or any odd copper based alloy : Orichalcum, Potin etc.
But TBH I don't care an iota about ancient coins, so they could stay for all I care.

Hi,

 

I removed copper-aluminium and copper-aluminium-nickel.

 

We should indeed debate how to handle names such as acmonital, bronzital, tombac, virenium and alpacca.

Using the field “additional details” doesn't sound ideal, since it's a language-specific field.

 

We may also wish to merge ceramic and porcelain (and clay composite?)

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