NumismaticaHollandia
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Posted: 20 Mart 2024, 09:35
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This is a duit from seemingly 1698, Gelderland. The problem however is, that this date isn't listed ANYWHERE in any catalogue. Is this a potentially newly discovered date? The Gelderland mint was definitely active in the late 1690s (there are many silver ducats from that period and province).
tdziemia
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Posted: 20 Mart 2024, 11:32
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Another possibility is that the last digit is a zero (since the lower part of the 8 does not look fully formed).
The zero varied in size, but there was a small zero used on some dies:
But I agree, it looks like an 8 with a bit missing.
NumismaticaHollandia
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Posted: 20 Mart 2024, 12:56
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tdziemia
Another possibility is that the last digit is a zero (since the lower part of the 8 does not look fully formed).
The zero varied in size, but there was a small zero used on some dies:
But I agree, it looks like an 8 with a bit missing.
Yeah, I agree. I also thought it was a 0 at first, untill i saw the slanted part. It could be a mistake by the engraver that resulted in it looking like a 8.
yvon
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Posted: 20 Mart 2024, 14:00
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To me it looks like a 0, if it was an 8 it would have touched the flower what is under it imo.
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NumismaticaHollandia
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Posted: 20 Mart 2024, 14:32
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yvon
To me it looks like a 0, if it was an 8 it would have touched the flower what is under it imo.
Yeah it would be inside of the flower thing, which is possible but strange.
tdziemia
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Posted: 20 Mart 2024, 18:56
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yvon
To me it looks like a 0, if it was an 8 it would have touched the flower what is under it imo.
Yeah it would be inside of the flower thing, which is possible but strange.
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Posted: 20 Mart 2024, 19:28
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tdziemia
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yvon
To me it looks like a 0, if it was an 8 it would have touched the flower what is under it imo.
Yeah it would be inside of the flower thing, which is possible but strange.
Ok, I see it. But it is a 0 too, imo
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NumismaticaHollandia
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Posted: 20 Mart 2024, 20:03
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tdziemia
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yvon
To me it looks like a 0, if it was an 8 it would have touched the flower what is under it imo.
Yeah it would be inside of the flower thing, which is possible but strange.
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Posted: 20 Mart 2024, 20:06
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yvon
tdziemia
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yvon
To me it looks like a 0, if it was an 8 it would have touched the flower what is under it imo.
Yeah it would be inside of the flower thing, which is possible but strange.
Ok, I see it. But it is a 0 too, imo
Yes, although I think he sent it to show that a number inside the flowers is possible.
NumismaticaHollandia
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Posted: 22 Mart 2024, 17:15
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NumismaticaHollandia
tdziemia
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yvon
To me it looks like a 0, if it was an 8 it would have touched the flower what is under it imo.
Yeah it would be inside of the flower thing, which is possible but strange.
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This coin also has a flat spot in the bottom left corner of the zero, which would explain the same one on my example. (although it's not as severe as my example)
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Posted: 26 Mart 2024, 02:23
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NumismaticaHollandia
This is a duit from seemingly 1698, Gelderland. The problem however is, that this date isn't listed ANYWHERE in any catalogue. Is this a potentially newly discovered date? The Gelderland mint was definitely active in the late 1690s (there are many silver ducats from that period and province).
theres a bit missing on the bottom left, to me looks more like 1690
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Posted: 26 Mart 2024, 09:12
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NumismaticaHollandia
This is a duit from seemingly 1698, Gelderland. The problem however is, that this date isn't listed ANYWHERE in any catalogue. Is this a potentially newly discovered date? The Gelderland mint was definitely active in the late 1690s (there are many silver ducats from that period and province).
theres a bit missing on the bottom left, to me looks more like 1690
I agree with you!
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