Little rework for Lao rulers? [solved]

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This message aims at: requesting the creation or the modification of a ruling authority

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There are some banknotes in the Lao catalog, which isn't able to get under a current ruler. I may not speak Lao, but I tried to figure out where they may belong.

I suggest the addition of:

 

Free Lao

- Prince Phetsarath (1945-1946) (or just Free Lao)

Or 

French Protectorat, Kingdom of Luang Phrabang:

- Sisavang Vong (1945-1946)

 

For instance this note, which is a Free Lao Kip, which was issued in/for Free Lao:

N#215102

 

But I'll also like to suggest Sisavang Vong get his ruling date changed from 1946 to 1953, since it's from here he ruled as a truly independent monarch, not under the French Indochinese Federation. Sisavang ruled as King of Laos, under the French Protectorat from 1946 to full independence in 1953.

This is less importaant of course, I just tought to mention it :D

 

A poke to referee: @Magic2ik if they agree? I did my best from the information I got at hand :)

 

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monarchs_of_Laos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisavang_Vong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lao_kip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lao_Issara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phetsarath_Ratanavongsa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Luang_Phrabang

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_protectorate_of_Laos

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I think I can only agree.
When Numista started with banknotes i did my best to provide as much information as possible.

 

I see Numista as an open Community.

So all info is Welcome.

 

To bad Howard A. Daniel III & Maurizio passed away already. A lot of information has been lost

 

Always looking for nice coins to get my collection "more" complete

So you agree with Sisavang Vong should have two periods? Like so?

Frencs Protectorate:

- Sisavang Vong (1946-1953)

Kingdom of Laos:

- Sisavang Vong (1953-1959)

 

What about the Free Lao Kip? Add free Lao as a ruler or the Prince under Free Lao? 🤓

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I created Period Lao Issara

For Sisavang Vong are there items before 1953? He was king starting 1946 I dont see why we would change the date range if title is the same

Status changed to Started (Compendium, 18 Nis 2024, 07:52)
Status changed to Done (Compendium, 18 Nis 2024, 07:52)

I was just thinking with Moroccan King Mohammed V, ruling both under a French Protectorate and as an independent kingdom. His rule is split between those two.

 

The onlly items from before 1953 is the coins:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=laos&r=&ct=coin&im1=&im2=&tb=y&tc=y&tt=y&cat=y&ru=5454&ca=3&no=&v=&i=&b=&ie=&u=&a=&dg=&m=&f=&t=&w=&mt=&g=&se=&d=&c=&wi=&sw=

 

Tougts? 😊

 

Thanks for Issara, I suppose it will be chronologically ordered after next reboot? 😁

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I was just thinking with Moroccan King Mohammed V, ruling both under a French Protectorate and as an independent kingdom. His rule is split between those two.

He is Sultant then King: we cut rulers when their title change.

If I'm not wrong this Lao ruler stayed King all along?

 

Thanks for Issara, I suppose it will be chronologically ordered after next reboot? 😁

Normally yes :-)

Okay, a little follow up: 

On Fiji, there are both Queen Elizabeth II, as British Crown Colony and British Dominion. See this for instance:

N#12575

 

Should that be changed or is it an argument for the change/seperation of the Lao rulers? Between French dominion and Independent kingdom?

 

Thank you for the work, regardless! 😁

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Status changed to Opened (Compendium, 30 Nis 2024, 08:21)
Status changed to Done (Compendium, 14 Ara 2024, 13:19)

Thanks, I changed

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