I guess an exchange would be a good opportunity to celebrate our hobby and make somebody else a cheer. Send coin(s)/banknote(s) (well, I'm sure no one will be upset if you send more than one), as well as a postcard from your city or something else to share some local flavor with our fellow collectors.
There will be three options to send and receive:
1) general coin of any sort, with a value of "a few" (i.e., 2-5) dollars, Euro, etc.
2) silver coin, with a value of 5 to 10 dollars/Euro/etc.
3) banknote, with a value of "a few" (i.e., 2-5) dollars, Euro, etc.
Please register in this thread by November 30th and tell to which option(s) you add yourself. The list of all the people participating will be shuffled and then each person will send coin(s)/banknote(s) to the next person on the list (receiving coin(s)/banknote(s) from the previous person). I will randomize the list on December 1st and post the resulting order. I feel that the international friendship aspect of this exchange is important, so I will attempt to keep as many coins/banknotes as possible travelling to other countries around the world.
NOTE: If you live in a country that has restrictions (that are enforced) on sending and receiving coins/banknotes only from certain countries, please let me know! Once the list is posted, please contact the person to whom you are sending in order to get his/her address. If his/her collection is open for public viewing, you should try to pick a coin that they don't have. Otherwise, take a look at their collecting interests for inspiration.
However bear in mind I live in New Zealand, the last stop on this planet before the moon and mars.
Hence people receiving items from me, may not get them until mid January and postage from NZ is not cheap around $5 now.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
I've just drawn the names. Please contact the person to whom you are sending in order to get their mailing address. I guess the easiest way to avoid to send a coin/banknote the person already has would be to ask the person to open his/her Numista collection for you when you ask him/her via PM for his/her address (and to look at the person's Numista profile).
This year there are less participants, but I hope there will be much as much fun as in the last years - here are the final lists:
Same here, just learned of the postage strike here in Canada. Ill try to send my gifts using another postal service or by the post if it opens in the next week or so.
Just sent mine in envelopes, that way I avoid the prying eyes of post office staff.
Am worried this may be last year I can do it here, Post Offices have basically disappeared and been absorbed into stationety shops, also going the way of the past, due to the computer imposed internet hell of this world.
Had I sent these in registered mail bags, I would have paid around $39.90 each plus postage and by parcel post at least $18 each to foreign destinations outside Australia and a few Pacific Islands.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
I am waiting on the Canada Post strike situation development, if nothing changes, will send out next week by alternate methods. Apologies for the delay in advance!!
I am waiting on the Canada Post strike situation development, if nothing changes, will send out next week by alternate methods. Apologies for the delay in advance!!
It can never be your fault…. I sent a letter from the US to a friend in Canada just before the strike, and it's hanging round somewhere… Inshala.
As someone in these forums suggested, I used the phrase “Hobby Supplies” on the customs declaration. Suitably vague but not a lie😉
I usually use “metal samples”, because if they see in the scans that it's somwthing metallic, or the shake so hard they can hear a sound, they wouldn't be surprised since I've stated it's metal. And depending on your definition of “samples”, I'm not even lying. 😄
I have recieved a handful of swaps that has stated “coins” on the declaration. These has each cost be 10 USD to release from customs … Even though I'm very clearly on my profile asking people not to do this, they do it anyway.
With coins I keep a stock of pouches and flips (Usually PVC or 2nd hand ones, so they do their job and I don't miss them too much).
I tape the pouches with coin inside to a slice of board and then tape the 2 slices together and slide them into envelope, so no rattle.
Sorry if you already know this, but ever since I have not had an issue with a coin reaching its destination.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
I have recieved a handful of swaps that has stated “coins” on the declaration. These has each cost be 10 USD to release from customs … Even though I'm very clearly on my profile asking people not to do this, they do it anyway.
It's possible to refuse the reception of a letter, I've done it on a few occations. Doesn't cost anything.
With coins I keep a stock of pouches and flips (Usually PVC or 2nd hand ones, so they do their job and I don't miss them too much).
I tape the pouches with coin inside to a slice of board and then tape the 2 slices together and slide them into envelope, so no rattle.
Sorry if you already know this, but ever since I have not had an issue with a coin reaching its destination.
Another similar approach could be to use a utility knife, cut along the edge(s) of the coin(s) into currogated fiberboard, press the coin(s) into the hole(s), place a piece of plastic over the coins and place tape over the plastic to fasten the coin. No rattle and no feel of coin(s).
I have recieved a handful of swaps that has stated “coins” on the declaration. These has each cost be 10 USD to release from customs … Even though I'm very clearly on my profile asking people not to do this, they do it anyway.
It's possible to refuse the reception of a letter, I've done it on a few occations. Doesn't cost anything.
Then the evaluation of your swap partner would be “Eventually a perfect swap, but I didn't want to accept his coins, because he had NOT written HOBBY MATERIAL on the tax declaration”, so he only get 0 stars because he wrote “coins” on the envelope! Or how did you do the evaluation?
I have recieved a handful of swaps that has stated “coins” on the declaration. These has each cost be 10 USD to release from customs … Even though I'm very clearly on my profile asking people not to do this, they do it anyway.
It's possible to refuse the reception of a letter, I've done it on a few occations. Doesn't cost anything.
Well, if I refuse reception the coins will be sent in return, and why would I do that?
I have recieved a handful of swaps that has stated “coins” on the declaration. These has each cost be 10 USD to release from customs … Even though I'm very clearly on my profile asking people not to do this, they do it anyway.
It's possible to refuse the reception of a letter, I've done it on a few occations. Doesn't cost anything.
Well, if I refuse reception the coins will be sent in return, and why would I do that?
I would do it to save an expense of $10 for something of little to no value. It would not cost anything to the sender either (besides additional shipping cost) - perhaps they would learn how to comply with your instructions?
I have recieved a handful of swaps that has stated “coins” on the declaration. These has each cost be 10 USD to release from customs … Even though I'm very clearly on my profile asking people not to do this, they do it anyway.
It's possible to refuse the reception of a letter, I've done it on a few occations. Doesn't cost anything.
Then the evaluation of your swap partner would be “Eventually a perfect swap, but I didn't want to accept his coins, because he had NOT written HOBBY MATERIAL on the tax declaration”, so he only get 0 stars because he wrote “coins” on the envelope! Or how did you do the evaluation?
Depends on their reaction, but I would not forget to mention that their approach would have set me $10 back. Perhaps they just resend the shipment as instructed and we all can be happy?
Edit: Customs really don't care if you are swapping or buying things, they are only interested in whatever value is presented to them. Within the EU value declaration begins at 0 (zero), but in most cases they are thrilled handing you a bill of $10 just for the paper work.
I have recieved a handful of swaps that has stated “coins” on the declaration. These has each cost be 10 USD to release from customs … Even though I'm very clearly on my profile asking people not to do this, they do it anyway.
It's possible to refuse the reception of a letter, I've done it on a few occations. Doesn't cost anything.
Then the evaluation of your swap partner would be “Eventually a perfect swap, but I didn't want to accept his coins, because he had NOT written HOBBY MATERIAL on the tax declaration”, so he only get 0 stars because he wrote “coins” on the envelope! Or how did you do the evaluation?
Depends on their reaction, but I would not forget to mention that their approach would have set me $10 back. Perhaps they just resend the shipment as instructed and we all can be happy?
I saw on your profile, that you have NEVER made a swap, so you have absolutely no experience, is that it????
I have recieved a handful of swaps that has stated “coins” on the declaration. These has each cost be 10 USD to release from customs … Even though I'm very clearly on my profile asking people not to do this, they do it anyway.
It's possible to refuse the reception of a letter, I've done it on a few occations. Doesn't cost anything.
Then the evaluation of your swap partner would be “Eventually a perfect swap, but I didn't want to accept his coins, because he had NOT written HOBBY MATERIAL on the tax declaration”, so he only get 0 stars because he wrote “coins” on the envelope! Or how did you do the evaluation?
Depends on their reaction, but I would not forget to mention that their approach would have set me $10 back. Perhaps they just resend the shipment as instructed and we all can be happy?
I saw on your profile, that you have NEVER made a swap, so you have absolutely no experience, is that it????
Yes, I have experience in refusing to receive a letter, what is your point? Do you want to discuss persons or how things can be done?
I have recieved a handful of swaps that has stated “coins” on the declaration. These has each cost be 10 USD to release from customs … Even though I'm very clearly on my profile asking people not to do this, they do it anyway.
It's possible to refuse the reception of a letter, I've done it on a few occations. Doesn't cost anything.
Then the evaluation of your swap partner would be “Eventually a perfect swap, but I didn't want to accept his coins, because he had NOT written HOBBY MATERIAL on the tax declaration”, so he only get 0 stars because he wrote “coins” on the envelope! Or how did you do the evaluation?
Depends on their reaction, but I would not forget to mention that their approach would have set me $10 back. Perhaps they just resend the shipment as instructed and we all can be happy?
I saw on your profile, that you have NEVER made a swap, so you have absolutely no experience, is that it????
Sjoelund just loves to make people angry and argue with him, he is a person who is just bored and loves to argue with Numista's members. He judges a book by its cover.
Plus he forgets the member may have done coin swaps with people outside of Numista.
I don't swap through Numista, but may start soon, but have had people overseas getting NZ coins and notes as they come out and in return they send me coins for my collection. Maybe they do too.
Plus that member too, may actually buy coins online, so they know the ins and outs of sending and receiving coins in the mail.
There is a world of coin collecting and swapping outside Numista. Its not like we all started swapping and trading the moment we joined Numista. Funny I myself survived 38 years of life before I joined in.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Plus he forgets the member may have done coin swaps with people outside of Numista.
Well, this New Years will be my 24th anniversary of dealing on the Internet.
There is actually a reason why I would never swap coins via the Internet - being it Numista or otherwise, and disclose my identity and merits.
I collect gold coins and I prefer to have the items in front of me and the counterpart in the same room. This way the deal can be made relatively anonymous.
I have sent and received thousands of other items via mail, so I do have knowledge on how this works.
Plus he forgets the member may have done coin swaps with people outside of Numista.
I don't swap through Numista, but may start soon, but have had people overseas getting NZ coins and notes as they come out and in return they send me coins for my collection. Maybe they do too.
Plus that member too, may actually buy coins online, so they know the ins and outs of sending and receiving coins in the mail.
There is a world of coin collecting and swapping outside Numista. Its not like we all started swapping and trading the moment we joined Numista. Funny I myself survived 38 years of life before I joined in.
So you've changed your mind about that member being an AI/Bot?
Had forgotten all about that little accusation. A rare time when I have got it wrong, but I had good suspicions with mechanical stilted English and round number of coins and swaps. Plus a user name that sounds like a model number of a robot or an appliance
But yes I got ot wrong, P100 is very much alive and human so lets all move on.
How would this world ever exist if it was not for inquiry and casting hypotheses (Otherwise known as making accusations).
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Mr.Investor has indicated that he sent me base metal and not silver. He doesn’t respond to my messages anymore, so it looks like I’m not getting any silver from Santa this year…
Mr.Investor has indicated that he sent me base metal and not silver. He doesn’t respond to my messages anymore, so it looks like I’m not getting any silver from Santa this year…
Any ideas on how to handle this?
And he hasn't sent his address to @Stefan0205 in Germany neither, Stefan is supposed to send a coin to @Mr._Investor, bizarre.
Mr.Investor has indicated that he sent me base metal and not silver. He doesn’t respond to my messages anymore, so it looks like I’m not getting any silver from Santa this year…
Any ideas on how to handle this?
Well, if he doesn't reply to you … let's cut out the middle man and Santa from Belgium sends his silver directly to you … the letter to @Mr._Investor was only just prepared here … only needs a new address if necessary …
So this is a call to @Mr._Investor to react to Steven's messages 😃
🎅🎅🎅🎅🎅
Just call me Bram
No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
When you get the Silver Coins in the mail from me, could you mail it back? Thanks
Wait … what? The silver coin I was suposed to send you is already on it's way … You mean the silver coins for Steven you sent to me? I could get them to him sometime … Netherlands and Belgium are quite close to each other … though probably rather an Easter gift than a X'mas gift 😁
Edit: or do you mean you sent doubles? Do you want me to refuse your letter and have it sent "return to sender"? I'm not sure I can do that with regular mail, but can always try …And how do I know which one contains my base coin and which one the silver to be returned?
Just call me Bram
No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
When you get the Silver Coins in the mail from me, could you mail it back? Thanks
Wait … what? The silver coin I was suposed to send you is already on it's way … You mean the silver coins for Steven you sent to me? I could get them to him sometime … Netherlands and Belgium are quite close to each other … though probably rather an Easter gift than a X'mas gift 😁
Edit: or do you mean you sent doubles? Do you want me to refuse your letter and have it sent "return to sender"? I'm not sure I can do that with regular mail, but can always try …And how do I know which one contains my base coin and which one the silver to be returned?
I sent doubles, you have to open one of the letters and hope you pick the right letter.
Update - next morning: Just returned from mail. Still blocked, but the clerk expects to be normalized in one or two days. If she's right by friday my letter can finally go.
Will wait until Christmas Day to open it, but pleased to say Gugalamy's gift from Portugal, has arrived here in Christchurch on the other side of the world!
Perhaps there are some fast Postal services still around.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Will wait until Christmas Day to open it, but pleased to say Gugalamy's gift from Portugal, has arrived here in Christchurch on the other side of the world!
Perhaps there are some fast Postal services still around.
