PVC damage on Banknotes? do u ever use this banknotes album?

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I cover my banknotes with plastic sleeve and put it on this kind album.

i don't really know is this PVC or not.. but this one have strong smell..
is this trick safe for my banknotes?
For someone whoever used this album before, can you give me information about it.

And i am curious: can someone give me an example how badly damaged banknotes because this pvc residue.

I have been using Lighthouse Vario banknote sleeves and stored them in one of those normal folder with 4 clips to hold the sleeves together. I have been shoring them this way for more than 30+ years, and so far they all look okay to me. If your folder is giving out strange smell, I would suggest that you stop storing your notes in that binder. I believe that you are living in an environment that during the daytime is usually hot and humid. It could be the heat during that day that causes that. Always place your notes in a nice and cool area, and if possible, in a room that have air-conditioning on. This is to keep the air dry and cool to avoid your notes getting foxing.  

 

Never take out your notes to view them on a rainy days too.

 

Just my opinion.

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That's good for you have that kind brand.
In my country, there is no like that.. mostly album even sleeve from China & no brand.
PCCB is still China too.. i mean idk is that bad or not..
I cannot buy from eBay too.. because the payment and also customs tax would be crazy if i not lucky enough.
Funny thing if i was TCG collector / player.. i would be easy to buy Ultra Pro Sleeves / Binder.

Don't worry, i already take out my banknotes from that album.
Now, i confused where i should store it..
If i store my banknotes on thick books, do you think this is a good idea?

It’s hard to say as it is all depending on your surrounding environment. In your country, I believe it is usually hot during the day and humid too, unless you are living in a highland area. In general, I would suggest you store them in an air-conditioned room to keep the humidity out.

 

Here we usually have low humidity and therefore it has very little impact on my notes.

 

If you are referring to storing your banknotes between pages of a book, without the protecting sleeves, then I would not recommend that either as there are chemical on those book pages and in the long run may damage your banknotes.

 

Singapore would be a good place to find those Vario sleeves if you are planning for a visit, or get your friends to get them for you if they are travelling in the near future.

 

I suggest you to pay a visit to your banknotes dealer and see what they would recommend. Sometimes, you have to spend a little bit extra to protect your collections, especially those that are worth somethings.

 

Good luck

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My spares: https://paperbanknotes.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-notes-listed-below-are-all-offered.html

of course i mean storing my banknotes between pages of a book with plastic sleeve but 
here we go again.. idk is that plastic pvc free or not.
i've used that plastic even on my smelly pvc album before.

I think i need to test like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXxAUn-lvg8&t=368s
 

btw thanks for your information. 

i think i will stop add more banknotes for this moment until i got proper sleeve and binder/album.

Winhart

of course i mean storing my banknotes between pages of a book with plastic sleeve but 
here we go again.. idk is that plastic pvc free or not.
i've used that plastic even on my smelly pvc album before.

I think i need to test like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXxAUn-lvg8&t=368s
 

btw thanks for your information. 

i think i will stop add more banknotes for this moment until i got proper sleeve and binder/album.

I am not familiar with the idk product and as such, I have no idea.

https://paperbanknotes.blogspot.com - Any offer for exchange is most welcome.
My spares: https://paperbanknotes.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-notes-listed-below-are-all-offered.html

I went to a RCNA convention that had a live Beilstein test on some of the different plastic sleeves, coin slips and collector album pages. Most of the pages failed (bright green) & some of the currency sleeves failed too.  This was a long time ago (around 2003).  I then went to an excellent banknote preservation workshop in 2016 led by a museum curator. They did not do the test at this shop (b/c of the open flame/fire regulations) but the conservator asked how many collectors had damaged coins from using poor plastic storage. Just about all 40-50 participants put their hands up.  At this point, I had already changed most of my album pages (& sleeves) after the 1st workshop. 

 

Some of the “take-aways” from the 2016 workshop: sturdier plastic album pages were often PVC-free & most big name European/American sleeve brand names were PVC-free (2016).  The price per sleeve ranged from $1.00/sleeve to $0.50/sleeve (bulk) but this was in 2016 so prices may have increased.  Some of these brands included Lighthouse, Safeguard, BCW, etc.  There were also many older currency sleeves still in use (being sold) which were not acid-free & these often turned yellow over time (& notes stuck to them). 

 

Strong odour or flimsy plastic often meant “stay clear.”  Lots of mints create non-circulating products with folders/plastic sleeves which had poor packaging & were to be avoided (or replaced).  Many collectors at the workshop had problems with the collector folders. Apparently, a lot of the mints contract out the packaging & were not making demands on what type of material was being employed (only lowest cost/fancy graphics- winning the contract). Sadly, there were still many sleeves made with PVC & the majority of these came from Chinese manufacturers.

 

@ahkai was correct about safe storage (in dry place) & other points he made about books (bleach from paper, etc) paying a little more for your valuables.  These were all similar recommendations from the curator/ workshop facilitator.

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ahkai

Winhart

of course i mean storing my banknotes between pages of a book with plastic sleeve but 
here we go again.. idk is that plastic pvc free or not.
i've used that plastic even on my smelly pvc album before.

I think i need to test like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXxAUn-lvg8&t=368s
 

btw thanks for your information. 

i think i will stop add more banknotes for this moment until i got proper sleeve and binder/album.

I am not familiar with the idk product and as such, I have no idea.

well, it's okay..

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I went to a RCNA convention that had a live Beilstein test on some of the different plastic sleeves, coin slips and collector album pages. Most of the pages failed (bright green) & some of the currency sleeves failed too.  This was a long time ago (around 2003).  I then went to an excellent banknote preservation workshop in 2016 led by a museum curator. They did not do the test at this shop (b/c of the open flame/fire regulations) but the conservator asked how many collectors had damaged coins from using poor plastic storage. Just about all 40-50 participants put their hands up.  At this point, I had already changed most of my album pages (& sleeves) after the 1st workshop. 

 

Some of the “take-aways” from the 2016 workshop: sturdier plastic album pages were often PVC-free & most big name European/American sleeve brand names were PVC-free (2016).  The price per sleeve ranged from $1.00/sleeve to $0.50/sleeve (bulk) but this was in 2016 so prices may have increased.  Some of these brands included Lighthouse, Safeguard, BCW, etc.  There were also many older currency sleeves still in use (being sold) which were not acid-free & these often turned yellow over time (& notes stuck to them). 

 

Strong odour or flimsy plastic often meant “stay clear.”  Lots of mints create non-circulating products with folders/plastic sleeves which had poor packaging & were to be avoided (or replaced).  Many collectors at the workshop had problems with the collector folders. Apparently, a lot of the mints contract out the packaging & were not making demands on what type of material was being employed (only lowest cost/fancy graphics- winning the contract). Sadly, there were still many sleeves made with PVC & the majority of these came from Chinese manufacturers.

 

@ahkai was correct about safe storage (in dry place) & other points he made about books (bleach from paper, etc) paying a little more for your valuables.  These were all similar recommendations from the curator/ workshop facilitator.

i really appreciate this information, thank you so much.
i try to figure it out.. “Fingers crossed”

 

When i says about buy from eBay. That doesn't mean i don't want to pay more, but there will be big possible.. i paid 2 times price or more when the order arrived at Customs. well, no need explain more about that.. u can check about my country on https://www.transparency.org/ 

i really appreciate this information, thank you so much.
i try to figure it out.. “Fingers crossed”

-You're most welcome.

 

I just want to add that the curator (who directed the 2nd RCNA workshop) spent a great deal of time discussing how moisture destroys most people's collections (not PVC plastics).  She went on (at length & in great detail) of how their museum has humidity monitors (forget her technical terms) & all sorts of environmental controls in the effort to keep humidity down to a minimum.  It's a science for them so she got quite animated when discussing air conditioning/humidity control (& how H2O & mold destroys paper artefacts).  Light can also damage banknotes (fade the ink) over time so special glass must be used if you intend to display most ink-based art/banknotes.

 

She highly recommended that we (collectors) all employ rechargeable desiccants (if our collection is worth preserving).  I would search eBay, Amazon or Alibaba for these in 1 to 10 gram packs or canisters/containers (which hold silicon beads).  Some collectors use the gun-safe type. Good luck!

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It is believed that the optimal humidity level is 30-60%, since too dry air can cause the paper to dry out. In the old days, it was customary for collectors to sometimes take banknotes out of albums and leave them in the fresh air for a few minutes.

It is sad and like those postage stamp and coin collectors, we all have the same issue with high humidity. A dealer once told me to wrap my stamp album with newspaper to help absorb the humidity and that was when I was living in a country that is always hot and humid all the time. I am lucky to say that I do not have this issue here.

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My spares: https://paperbanknotes.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-notes-listed-below-are-all-offered.html

Serial_Number_8

 humidity monitors (forget her technical terms) 

Hygrometer

Looks like Cheap Chinese crap, the ESOL words alone give it away - words like Banknote Collection, Money Collection, Coin Book are all signs of Chinese who can't speak English and translate words from Pinyin. Some even have Chinese characters on them.

 

These books usually have soft flexible plastic and leatherette style vinyl covers. They are a plague on collections and advertised heavy on Ebay, Trade Me and the notorious Chinese sites like Temu, Ali and are cheap (Under $10).

 

They are very poor quality and will destory your coins and notes, PVC plastic and like what they used in the West in like 1960s - 80s. You should use German Lighthouse (Leuchterm) and if on a budget, American BCW brand, these are not PVC laden and will protect your notes.

 

Chinese books and accessories are only okay for posting things and very short term storage (Like one week absolute tops). Even after a year you will get gungy sticky notes and coins with verdigris on them. Even worse is these products flood the poorer countries like India and Pakistan, where the hot humid climates speed up the decomposition.

 

Avoid any cheap plastic crap from China like a plague - should be in big glowing letters!

I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society

I am old enough to understand the true meaning of - You get what you pay for. 
 

If I buy a Tata Nano car or Datsun Redi Go, I do not expect it to run and perform it like a Mercedes Benz or BMW, and definitely do not have all those additional basic features like:

 

Auto parallel parking

Auto headlight on when it is dark

Inbuilt GPS

Change lane warning indicator

Auto windscreen wiper on when it is raining, etc

 

On the other hand if it comes with the above features, it would be great too. This is in no disrespect to the above two cars mentioned, as I am sure they are great cars too, just like my Daihatsu Charade that I used to own many years ago. So good that I used to own 3 of them (one after the other). If only Toyota had continued to import them into this country!

 

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My spares: https://paperbanknotes.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-notes-listed-below-are-all-offered.html

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