Sweden: 5 öre 779.2, “4”serif or not

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I just spent my whole afternoon trying to find a 5 öre with no sherif. I didn't find any. @ngdawa @goodasgold @Terrazone could you all please check your Myntboken or whatever sources you have?

I suggest we take out the 1940 year line with the comment “serif 4”,  once our Swedish colleagues have confirmed my suspicion. 

Hi, yes I vote for the same thing. I have looked at several hundred of these coins thru the last years and never found a coin without the serif.

Have a nice evening

Jimmy

goodasgold

Hi, yes I vote for the same thing. I have looked at several hundred of these coins thru the last years and never found a coin without the serif.

Have a nice evening

Jimmy

Thanks

Ole

Sjoelund

 

I just spent my whole afternoon trying to find a 5 öre with no sherif. I didn't find any. @ngdawa @goodasgold @Terrazone could you all please check your Myntboken or whatever sources you have?

In Myntarsboken there is indeed a variety for 1940. It's about a “Ändrad 4”, according to Google translate that's a “changed 4”. Unfortunately there are several pictures of other varieties but not from that one. So I don't know if that “changed 4” is about serifs, or open/close 4 or whatever, but at least there should be something. Of course if you're looking explicitly at serifs you might miss something else:

That's a double punched “4”, which we don't have in neither SCWC, nor in Numista. I don't know if I should document it? If you can get the permission from here: https://www.myntinfo.se/5-ore/5-ore-1940/ and the full image of the double punch coin, I would do it?

Have fun

Ole

PS, maybe that's what led to “serif” 40 for this coin? Although, ompunsad doesn't look like serif (in the writing, I mean)!

Sjoelund

That's a double punched “4”, which we don't have in neither SCWC, nor in Numista. I don't know if I should document it? If you can get the permission from here: https://www.myntinfo.se/5-ore/5-ore-1940/ and the full image of the double punch coin, I would do it?

 

Have fun

Ole

 

PS, maybe that's what led to “serif” 40 for this coin? Although, ompunsad doesn't look like serif (in the writing, I mean)!

Ive digged deep into this and believe its an ompunsad 4 with doubling that lead to thw variant being as described neither Hamrin/Delzanno or Myntårsboken mentions anything else but the ompunsad and doubling varieties

Some of our leading error collectors also infered that it could be a weakly struck or worn example where the four loses its serif but theres no know example of a mint one without an "serifed" 4 

Thanks for your feed-back, it really starts to look as we ALWAYS have ONLY serif 4 KM#779.2?

Yes thats my opinion😊

Same here by default they should be serifed, even "ompunsade" examples have serifs

I have verified the km812 and added the 1914, just make sure the 4's are covered. The km812 is as such just a change of alloy, hence the inclusion.

 Top of second picture, spelling should be always. 

Thanks, my spellchecker in Powerpoint also told me that, I see now, 

probably this is serif

I've just been allowed to use www.mynt.se as a source, thank you Felix.