Wrong labels on 2018 mintmark placement

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I believe that the labels for touching/not touching the rim were interchanged

 

the image on the left definitely shows that the mint mark does not touch the rim but was labeled as touching the rim. The image on the rite says not touching the rim but the mintmark does.

 


 

It would also be nice if someone could show how the 2018 and 2019  1 Piso Frosted looks like and in comparison to a normal 1 Piso coin.

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I'm sure my documentation is correct. Please, tell me, why you think it's not so?

Globetrotter
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Label says “Mint mark touches rim” but the illustration clearly shows that the mintmark does not touch the rim.

Label says “Mint  not touching rim” but the illustration  shows that the mintmark touches the rim.

It not only touches the rim, it's covered by the rim.

Globetrotter
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22PH

Label says “Mint mark touches rim” but the illustration clearly shows that the mintmark does not touch the rim.

Label says “Mint  not touching rim” but the illustration  shows that the mintmark touches the rim.

You are just getting confused by the lighting of the images, the images and the illustrating labels are correct.

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Then we have two different mint marks? One only half because hidden by the rim? The non touching is full.

Globetrotter
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The person who created the image or someone who has a copy of the two coins is the best person to say for sure as to which is which. 
 

I have around 50 circulated 2018 1 Piso coins here with me and I will see if I have one where the mintmark touches the rim but based on the image shown, I still say that the labels were interchanged.  

Well, the images are probably not from the same person and they were certainly taken at different times with different lighting. 
One is lit from the direction above and one is lit from the direction below, this creates different highlights and shadows on the images, which is why you are getting confused. But if you look really closely, maybe taking the images and overlaying them, you will see that they are correctly labelled.

 

Although if you find the two variations within your coins, I am sure that Sjoelund will happily update the graphic for you if you can provide him with good enough quality images. Spend a few hours of your time to make the website better.

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I can’t find one that touches the rim but here’s something that you might want to have a look. The base of the  mintmark of coin 1 is aligned to the base of JOSE RIZAL. The base of the mintmark of coin 2 is below the base of JOSE RIZAL

Hard to see from that so here’s one coin per image.

 

Coin 1

 

Coin 2

Since you are the experts on this, you folks decide on this matter. 
 

 Photos were taken using the camera. of my mobile phone.

22PH

The base of the  mintmark of coin 1 is aligned to the base of JOSE RIZAL. The base of the mintmark of coin 2 is below the base of JOSE RIZAL

Sorry, but I don't see any difference:

22PH

The person who created the image or someone who has a copy of the two coins is the best person to say for sure as to which is which. 
 

Agree. Fortunately that person has already stated his opinion.  https://en.numista.com/forum/topic157132.html#p1226966

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