Hi,just buy this 1796 morgan coins wondering have lettering on edge is this fake or replica ,thamks



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Welcome to Numista. You bought a Morgan coin? This is not a Morgan coin. What you are showing is a Draped Bust coin. Why would you buy something that you are not familiar with? What did you pay for it? From whom did you purchase it from? What is it's denomination? What is the weight, diameter, composition, etc. This is not going well from the start and should be an indiction of what you just purchased.
I would be interested to know what is written on the edge of the coin, I can make out „DER * * * *“?
This coin is commonly replicated / faked you can buy them all over the internet.
So yours is fake I am afraid. But there may be a possibility of a fake over a different coin, hence wanting to know the edge writing.
I can see ‘DEBIT / ****’ on the edge.
That migth be a swiss 5 francs? Those have similar edge inscriptions:
DOMINUS | PROVIDEBIT | 🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉 |
N#195
They've probably used an older, larger diameter one. Maybe this: N#19999 or this: N#193 Those have similar size/weight than the dollar and are made of silver too.
If you were going to counterfeit that coin you'd be plain stupid not to put HUNDRED CENTS ONE DOLLAR OR UNIT on the edge.
SGreg85
I can see ‘DEBIT / ****’ on the edge.
That migth be a swiss 5 francs? Those have similar edge inscriptions:DOMINUS | PROVIDEBIT | 🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉🟉 |
N#195
They've probably used an older, larger diameter one. Maybe this: N#19999 or this: N#193 Those have similar size/weight than the dollar and are made of silver too.
Yes, good eyes - I see it now. I was just thinking more of the older ones as it would be closer in size and incures lettering.
But you beat me to it.
rsirian1
If you were going to counterfeit that coin you'd be plain stupid not to put HUNDRED CENTS ONE DOLLAR OR UNIT on the edge.
True, but those who know nothing about coins (the naive buyers) wouldn’t notice that, and if it is pressed on the 5 Francs the silver content is close if not exact within tolerance of the the Dollar.
We will wait to see if OP answers my question on the edge lettering.
Does what the edge says really matter?
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harryg
Does what the edge says really matter?
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Yes, because if it is using a Swiss 5 Francs (or similar coin) as a planchet, this could at least make it 90% silver. I for one would like to know, as I’m sure the OP would.
You just belittled him with your 1st response! „Why would you buy something you are not familiar with?“……. …. „This is not going well from the start and should be an indication of what you have just purchased“
Hi,Good day to all respond to my coins and Thank you guys for the information,I do appreciate it….well the story is this con i buy in flea market the owner was a uncle of 80 years old aged, his hobby is collecting old coins and money he keep it for as long as 60 years old,now he said that he cannot enjoy to collect the hobby and he sell it ,even his/her grand son/daugther is not interesting about his hobby so he sell it with low price.we all know that old uncle and anties not familliar about internet about information….so here are some photo shot to have more details buy the way is not only 1 its 3 coins. Just measure
Well they were right. You have 3 fake coins with the wrong edge lettering. If you're lucky they are silver but I wouldn't count on it.
Ok thank you i just new coin collector, thank you and this is not only my coins just wanted to know why different edge writing
Yeah so they have the edge inscription of the 5 Francs, it is possible that in the 50s or 60s the silver 5 Francs was used as a pseudo planchet for these fakes, or someone has faked that too to pass them as fakes on a real silver coin. 90% silver coins of this size are about €25 worth of silver, ironically if they have done that the original 5 Franc would have been worth more depending on year and condition.
The obverse & reverse give them away as fakes, with or without the correct edge inscription, so here is my advice; if as you say you are confident about the precedence for the last 60 years, take them to a jeweller to have them tested for silver and either sell them at silver value (go to a trusted dealer who will melt them down and not try to resell them) because people who deal in fakes are bad people.
Or spend lots of money having them examined by a grading company as a modern fake over a Swiss 5 Francs, having silver test will help you decide if this is what they are - but as previously stated by other members, being actually made of silver is the best and unlikeliest outcome.
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