Æþelred, unknown type [solved]

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Hello experts!

 

Yesterday I got a package, and inside there were two coins. Thus was one of them:

 

From what I can read on coin is this:

Obv: ÆÐELRED REX ANGLO

Rev: LEOF??D M'O LVND

 

I'm not sure if it says LEOFǷYD, LEOFRYD, LEOFRED

 

I would say it's Seaby 1151, but I cannot find the exact type.

Here's the seller's pictures:

 

Looks like this one

 

N#53835

Bananao

Looks like this one

 

N#53835

Yeah, but with different reverse legend.

Yes, I just noticed. I'm not an expert in this kind of coins, but the one in the catalogue was minted in Baht, while in the photo I read a LVND, maybe it refers tu Lundinium, so minted in London?

Bananao

Yes, I just noticed. I'm not an expert in this kind of coins, but the one in the catalogue was minted in Baht, while in the photo I read a LVND, maybe it refers tu Lundinium, so minted in London?

Yeah, mine is minted in London.

 

 

Wooh, I think I might've found it! I was just gonna write “And I think it says Leofryd”, but just before I wrote that I just googled “leofryð” and got thjs result. Could it be it? https://www.spink.com/lot/19026000561

 

I've been searching like crazy without finding an exact match.

Status changed to Solved (ngdawa, 9 Nis 2025, 14:51)

ngdawa

Bananao

Yes, I just noticed. I'm not an expert in this kind of coins, but the one in the catalogue was minted in Baht, while in the photo I read a LVND, maybe it refers tu Lundinium, so minted in London?

Yeah, mine is minted in London.

 

 

Wooh, I think I might've found it! I was just gonna write “And I think it says Leofryd”, but just before I wrote that I just googled “leofryð” and got thjs result. Could it be it? https://www.spink.com/lot/19026000561

 

I've been searching like crazy without finding an exact match.

Great find! Information like this shouldn't go to waste, is it worth adding a year line to the catalogue page with ‘Leofryd at London’ in the comment?

Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.

radrick007

ngdawa

Bananao

Yes, I just noticed. I'm not an expert in this kind of coins, but the one in the catalogue was minted in Baht, while in the photo I read a LVND, maybe it refers tu Lundinium, so minted in London?

Yeah, mine is minted in London.

 

 

Wooh, I think I might've found it! I was just gonna write “And I think it says Leofryd”, but just before I wrote that I just googled “leofryð” and got thjs result. Could it be it? https://www.spink.com/lot/19026000561

 

I've been searching like crazy without finding an exact match.

Great find! Information like this shouldn't go to waste, is it worth adding a year line to the catalogue page with ‘Leofryd at London’ in the comment?

I'm thinking more if I should add a new page for it. Would be nice to have each mint separated, no?

In theory, the different mints and moneyers would have different reverse designs, so that would justify listing separate pages. However, in the practical world, there must be hundreds of different mint and moneyer combinations so the catalogue would be grossly inflated and if a member can determine what type they have from the obverse design but can't identify the mint or moneyer, then they don't know in which page to list their coin.

Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.

radrick007

In theory, the different mints and moneyers would have different reverse designs, so that would justify listing separate pages. However, in the practical world, there must be hundreds of different mint and moneyer combinations so the catalogue would be grossly inflated and if a member can determine what type they have from the obverse design but can't identify the mint or moneyer, then they don't know in which page to list their coin.

That's true. But the reverse lettering is different (not just the mint).

On the coin in the page the lettering is +EDSTAN M.Ω.O BAÐ and on my coin the lettering is +LEOFRYD M'O LVND.

 

But I agree. The result would be hundreds of pages with very similar coins. I still reckon this difference is too signicant for sharing the page. What do you reckon?

I've shared my opinions on the issue but I'm not the referee any more, so it's not for me to decide.

@peterjhalford Would you please review the previous comments and advise your stance on the question.

Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.

I agreed with @radrick007 that there would simply be too many pages that would need to be created even though this is what the catalogue guidelines ask for. Better to have a new year line with the legend present on that coin. One would hope the search function would find the lettering appropriately. 

I've sent a request for new year line.

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