Please sort denominations in alphabetic order.

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Whoever submits an item with a blank field “currency” faces hundreds “denomination” randomly sorted :

and not sorted by Ordralfabétix.

Referee of south atlantic islands

I accepted your 2 requests and it looks it worked. See links in your message, denomination is OK.

So I suppress my second request, anyway we should submit only a request at a time.

Referee of south atlantic islands

Frenchlover

Whoever submits an item with a blank field “currency” faces hundreds “denomination” randomly sorted :

and not sorted by Ordralfabétix.

 

 

Agreed, just sorting alphabetically or grouping by the denomination name and not the numerical value in the front would help a lot. 

"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

In which scenario do you need to select a denomination while leaving the field “currency” blank?

For me it was trying to add the denominations missing from some of the goldback notes.  Goldback isn't a currency, and the list of unknown is so long its hard to navigate and see if an entry already exists.   

 

It also didn't seem to show the change in the preview whe. I submitted, I have been meaning to go back and revisit it to see if maybe I was just having a bad night haha

"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

Several tokens and medals:

1 Ecu

Misplaced in Medals instead of Tokens (Rigid objects that can be traded or used for something under limited conditions) > Event tokens (Tokens used to purchase goods or services in event shops, and during that event) only because Europark is not a temporary event …

1 Point

6 Pence

10 Pence

1 Punto

2 Groins

2 Games

2 Scruples

1 Frandor

etc…

Referee of south atlantic islands

In my opinion, every denomination should belong a currency (real or fantasy). Even in the case of a fantasy currency with a single denomination (in these cases, the currency and its denomination could be created or not, but if there is denomination, there is currency).

 

orphenshadow

For me it was trying to add the denominations missing from some of the goldback notes.  Goldback isn't a currency, and the list of unknown is so long its hard to navigate and see if an entry already exists.

If these embedded-asset notes from United Sates have denominations of ½, 1, 2, 5, 10, 25, 50 and 100 Goldbacks, a new currency

Goldback (2019-date)

should be created with these denominations.

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

davidhs

In my opinion, every denomination should belong a currency (real or fantasy). Even in the case of a fantasy currency with a single denomination (in these cases, the currency and its denomination could be created or not, but if there is denomination, there is currency).

 

orphenshadow

For me it was trying to add the denominations missing from some of the goldback notes.  Goldback isn't a currency, and the list of unknown is so long its hard to navigate and see if an entry already exists.

If these embedded-asset notes from United Sates have denominations of ½, 1, 2, 5, 10, 25, 50 and 100 Goldbacks, a new currency

Goldback (2019-date)

should be created with these denominations.

Im sorry, I should have clarified it was the Zombucks and Silverback I was having trouble finding, Im pretty sure I found the goldbacks and was able to submit those.

"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

orphenshadow

davidhs

In my opinion, every denomination should belong a currency (real or fantasy). Even in the case of a fantasy currency with a single denomination (in these cases, the currency and its denomination could be created or not, but if there is denomination, there is currency).

 

orphenshadow

For me it was trying to add the denominations missing from some of the goldback notes.  Goldback isn't a currency, and the list of unknown is so long its hard to navigate and see if an entry already exists.

If these embedded-asset notes from United Sates have denominations of ½, 1, 2, 5, 10, 25, 50 and 100 Goldbacks, a new currency

Goldback (2019-date)

should be created with these denominations.

Im sorry, I should have clarified it was the Zombucks and Silverback I was having trouble finding, Im pretty sure I found the goldbacks and was able to submit those.

I think these cases are similar. These currencies could be created:

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

davidhs

orphenshadow

davidhs

In my opinion, every denomination should belong a currency (real or fantasy). Even in the case of a fantasy currency with a single denomination (in these cases, the currency and its denomination could be created or not, but if there is denomination, there is currency).

 

orphenshadow

For me it was trying to add the denominations missing from some of the goldback notes.  Goldback isn't a currency, and the list of unknown is so long its hard to navigate and see if an entry already exists.

If these embedded-asset notes from United Sates have denominations of ½, 1, 2, 5, 10, 25, 50 and 100 Goldbacks, a new currency

Goldback (2019-date)

should be created with these denominations.

Im sorry, I should have clarified it was the Zombucks and Silverback I was having trouble finding, Im pretty sure I found the goldbacks and was able to submit those.

I think these cases are similar. These currencies could be created:

I agree,  the problem I had was just simply trying to determine if it existed already, none of the bullion rounds I found were atributed to it as a currency, and several of my goldbacks were missing it as well, and it was just not a great experience trying to navigate through so many. 

I like the idea of splitting it so that maybe there is one dropdown for each currency real or fantasy,  (Dollar, Pound, Peso, Goldback, Silverback) and then another dropdown for the denomination (¼, ½, 1, 2, 5, 10, etc.) 

But I don't know how complicated the database is on the back end and this isn't something that I find myself needing to do quite often so I can imagine it's pretty low on the list of things to do. 

"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

orphenshadow

I agree,  the problem I had was just simply trying to determine if it existed already, none of the bullion rounds I found were atributed to it as a currency, and several of my goldbacks were missing it as well, and it was just not a great experience trying to navigate through so many. 

I like the idea of splitting it so that maybe there is one dropdown for each currency real or fantasy,  (Dollar, Pound, Peso, Goldback, Silverback) and then another dropdown for the denomination (¼, ½, 1, 2, 5, 10, etc.) 

But I don't know how complicated the database is on the back end and this isn't something that I find myself needing to do quite often so I can imagine it's pretty low on the list of things to do. 

Creating a currency and denominations is easy, and the process exist (it is not a pending task to developed). 🙂

 

If you do not select a currency in the page, you will see a big list of unrelated denominations (see fist post in this topic). These denominations without currency were created years ago, when the currency and denomination fields were text buttons and the user could write anything. The structure of currency and denominations was changed in the mid-2023 https://en.numista.com/forum/topic135731.html and now we have a list of know currencies by issuers, and a list of know denominations for each currency. These structured lists were created based in the previous currencies and denominations, so there are duplicates, misspelling, denominations without currency, and more errors pending to fix.

 

If you edit a page, and do not find a currency you need, you will need to request its creation in the forum. In the same topic you can request to create the denominations you need. Read these guidelines:
https://en.numista.com/help/add-or-modify-a-currency-in-the-catalogue-194.html

https://en.numista.com/help/add-or-modify-a-denomination-in-the-catalogue-206.html

 

Once the new currency (and denominations, if you add them) are created, you edit the page and select them. If the page has an old denomination without currency, this value will be changed. When a denomination is not used in a while, it is removed by the system https://en.numista.com/forum/topic154994.html (so, the old denomination without currency will be removed, and the big list of unrelated denominations without currencies will be reduced).

 

If the currency you want exists, but you need other denomination that was not created, you can create the new denomination (writing the name in the language of your interface: English or French) or request its creations, following the guidelines above.

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

davidhs

orphenshadow

I agree,  the problem I had was just simply trying to determine if it existed already, none of the bullion rounds I found were atributed to it as a currency, and several of my goldbacks were missing it as well, and it was just not a great experience trying to navigate through so many. 

I like the idea of splitting it so that maybe there is one dropdown for each currency real or fantasy,  (Dollar, Pound, Peso, Goldback, Silverback) and then another dropdown for the denomination (¼, ½, 1, 2, 5, 10, etc.) 

But I don't know how complicated the database is on the back end and this isn't something that I find myself needing to do quite often so I can imagine it's pretty low on the list of things to do. 

Creating a currency and denominations is easy, and the process exist (it is not a pending task to developed). 🙂

 

If you do not select a currency in the page, you will see a big list of unrelated denominations (see fist post in this topic). These denominations without currency were created years ago, when the currency and denomination fields were text buttons and the user could write anything. The structure of currency and denominations was changed in the mid-2023 https://en.numista.com/forum/topic135731.html and now we have a list of know currencies by issuers, and a list of know denominations for each currency. These structured lists were created based in the previous currencies and denominations, so there are duplicates, misspelling, denominations without currency, and more errors pending to fix.

 

If you edit a page, and do not find a currency you need, you will need to request its creation in the forum. In the same topic you can request to create the denominations you need. Read these guidelines:
https://en.numista.com/help/add-or-modify-a-currency-in-the-catalogue-194.html

https://en.numista.com/help/add-or-modify-a-denomination-in-the-catalogue-206.html

 

Once the new currency (and denominations, if you add them) are created, you edit the page and select them. If the page has an old denomination without currency, this value will be changed. When a denomination is not used in a while, it is removed by the system https://en.numista.com/forum/topic154994.html (so, the old denomination without currency will be removed, and the big list of unrelated denominations without currencies will be reduced).

 

If the currency you want exists, but you need other denomination that was not created, you can create the new denomination (writing the name in the language of your interface: English or French) or request its creations, following the guidelines above.

Ah, that clears it up thanks.  I think I was given some out-dated advice when I made the request maybe.  

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic160081.html

"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

Actually, no this is still an issue. 


Here is what you are greeted with when attempting to correct the Currency and Denomination for the ½ Flordia Goldback. 

You are given only one Currency option other than Unknown and the giant list of randomly sorted options. 

 

https://youtu.be/bW9RjSHwwvY

If you do manage to find it in the unknown list and set it, when you submit the change it's not listed and does not appear to go through. 

I'm not sure if this is maybe a byproduct of the recent move from Bullion to Bullion-embeded Notes for these objects.    I just wanted them to sort properly in my collection page, but gave up and forgot about it until this thread tbh. 

"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

 

Cannot add Denominations to Unknown Currency.

orphenshadow

Actually, no this is still an issue. 


Here is what you are greeted with when attempting to correct the Currency and Denomination for the ½ Flordia Goldback. 

You are given only one Currency option other than Unknown and the giant list of randomly sorted options. 

 

https://youtu.be/bW9RjSHwwvY

If you do manage to find it in the unknown list and set it, when you submit the change it's not listed and does not appear to go through. 

I'm not sure if this is maybe a byproduct of the recent move from Bullion to Bullion-embeded Notes for these objects.    I just wanted them to sort properly in my collection page, but gave up and forgot about it until this thread tbh. 

Before assign or create denominations, the currency must be created (and the currency Goldback does not exists). Let's continue this issue in your request https://en.numista.com/forum/topic160081.html

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

davidhs

orphenshadow

Actually, no this is still an issue. 


Here is what you are greeted with when attempting to correct the Currency and Denomination for the ½ Flordia Goldback. 

You are given only one Currency option other than Unknown and the giant list of randomly sorted options. 

 

https://youtu.be/bW9RjSHwwvY

If you do manage to find it in the unknown list and set it, when you submit the change it's not listed and does not appear to go through. 

I'm not sure if this is maybe a byproduct of the recent move from Bullion to Bullion-embeded Notes for these objects.    I just wanted them to sort properly in my collection page, but gave up and forgot about it until this thread tbh. 

Before assign or create denominations, the currency must be created (and the currency Goldback does not exists). Let's continue this issue in your request https://en.numista.com/forum/topic160081.html

Thank you. I have a much better understanding of how the sites systems work now than I did then and  I will go back and give those links a read and when I have some time sit down and fix all the goldback/silverback/zombucks.   I also have improved photos to contribute to some of them. 

"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

I am (although slowly) going through currencies/denominations to assign them correctly. In the end, there should really be no denominations without currency, and thus the ugly list would be gone, with no need to sort them whatsoever.

Catalogue administrator

 How do some get on the list say five or six times anyway? 

Is it members creating them, not knowing they already exist - 

and if so there should be some automatic warning of such, 

and the creation of a supposed new one be not permitted. 

 Just asking. 

Also - https://en.numista.com/forum/topic160998.html 

where for now I manually exchanged the error, but that 

error must be deleted from the list also, so nobody else uses it. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

That is a legacy thing, they were all created as free text fields. That is why, after we make it as a selector, there were so many. (And current result of 3300  (was 3500 on monday :) ) was created after several thousands of those denominations were merged automaticaly.

Catalogue administrator

 OK - is there more to merge or is the list alright now? 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

List will eventually go to 0 - as there cannot be a denomination without a currency.

 

I am slowly going through them, it will take some time.

Catalogue administrator

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