CCIP should include cropping when the image is sufficiently defined

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I understood that this included cropping the image.

https://fr.numista.com/forum/topic49676.html

I was wrong (images well defined - much more than a print-screen)

N#471868

So I asked to Google what means CCIP : 

It's answer didn't help me so much :)

N#179900

Due to the fact that english and french titles are now randomly disconnected.

Referee of south atlantic islands

Your idea to improve Numista is…

in the title of this discussion.

Referee of south atlantic islands

Define “sufficiently defined.”  This?  

 

Yes, this image is good:

623ko but not cropped.

Referee of south atlantic islands

I would have thought that coin pictures would have already been a good example of ones that need cropping.

Current rules for the CCIP are to remove the background but not crop it, to encourage members to post photos that have already been cropped with the best possible resolution.
What I'm proposing is to still crop images when they have sufficient resolution (pixel weight).

Referee of south atlantic islands

Oh. I've always cropped to the coin's edge when I did any CCIP images. That was wrong? Isn't that what crop means?

Make up your own mind

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic120001.html

Referee of south atlantic islands

I admit I'm lost.  Your example above is not a small image. It's just an image in need of cropping. 

 

There is just a need to clarify this point.

Referee of south atlantic islands

The case is that a lot of users add not cropped photos with background. I always try to do the best by myself but for not round shape I also need some help. I guess it's OK, better non cropped/with backgound photo than no photo at all… and there are other users who can “fix” this. It seems unfortunatelly, that some of users understand the CCIP rules in other way than me: they remove background but never crop the photo to the coin edge, I'm not sure why. The result is like in the photo at the beginning of this topic.

I understand that small photo is enlarged automatically and is not "sharp” but for good quality photos it's better to crop the big white background and the quality od photo is still good.

Je ne suis pas pédagogue pour pouvoir expliquer la photographie et l'optique, leur application en informatique et le ressenti visuel. Il y a trop de notions qui s'entrecroisent.

Sur Numista il y a CCIP concernant le fond d'image détecté en appréciations visuelles, 

  /picture-background/ en détection informatisée sur la couleur d'un coin de la photo

/small-pictures/ en détection informatisée qui détecte les dimensions du fichier inférieures à 360

et les consignes de Xavier de ne pas agrandir ce que la photo représente

Contrairement aux sites commerciaux, Numista n'a pas de laboratoire pour entretenir son catalogue, ce sont ces membres qui l'alimentent, souvent avec un GPS/Barometre/Podomètre/Console/…etc… que l'on nomme portable ou téléphone, qui prend des photos rectangulaires de pièces rondes à insérer dans un carré. Et n'allez pas dire qu'un téléphone à plus de 1000 euros fait de mauvaises photos !

 

Sorry, I don't speak English

BOINC

To clarify, when you zoom in on a photo on a Numista page, it appears with a resolution of 600x600 pixels on a (standard) print-screen.
So we might take this as a lower limit for allowing cropping an image.

Referee of south atlantic islands

Neither the size of the image nor the resolution of the digital photo make its quality

 

BOINC

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