Hungary - Denier 1555 - fake or not?

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First impression is that this is silvered over base metal.  

There are two extra letters in the legend on the shield side (VNGIG instead of just VNG).

The 5s also do not look correct to me (though there was some variation in the form of the 5s, I cannot find any that look like yours).

There are many examples for comparison online

https://www.ma-shops.com/saenn/item.php?id=46968

 

But since these were struck in large number (presumably) from many dies), better to get opinions from members who have more experience with these.  

tdziemia

First impression is that this is silvered over base metal.  

There are two extra letters in the legend on the shield side (VNGIG instead of just VNG).

The 5s also do not look correct to me (though there was some variation in the form of the 5s, I cannot find any that look like yours).

There are many examples for comparison online

https://www.ma-shops.com/saenn/item.php?id=46968

 

But since these were struck in large number (presumably) from many dies), better to get opinions from members who have more experience with these.  

+1

 

However, in order to authenticate your coin, it is essential that you provide us with its weight.

 

Have a nice day / evening

« J'ai des questions à toutes vos réponses » André Malraux

weight - 0,51 gr, diameter 15.6 mm

Thank you.

 

The weight seems to match. However, without having the coin in hand, it is difficult to be categorical about its authenticity.

Perhaps a magnet test should be carried out to verify its authenticity. 

Let's see what the other members think.

 

Have a nice day.

« J'ai des questions à toutes vos réponses » André Malraux

Dylan73

Thank you.

 

The weight seems to match. However, without having the coin in hand, it is difficult to be categorical about its authenticity.

Perhaps a magnet test should be carried out to verify its authenticity. 

Let's see what the other members think.

 

Have a nice day.

lol magnet test wouldn’t do anything to prove anything in this situation 

I have another similar coin (fake?). It looks like the previous one, copper plated with white metal. The white metal has partially peeled off. But while the inscription on the previous one has some real meaning, this one seems to be just a jumble of letters. Perhaps counterfeits were mass-produced? Back then?

Yes, there was large scale counterfeiting of these coins.

 

The first one you posted is of unusually good quality in terms of copying many of the design elements.

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