Sjoelund
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 14:05
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N#312436 to be kept, because I just documented it
N#312435 to be deleted?
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rsirian1
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 14:40
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Edges are different. Both patterns but mules?
Sjoelund
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 15:23
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That's what numista says…..
The origins are the same for both!
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rsirian1
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 15:33
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How can this one also be KM340? Why are they listed as patterns? Were the mules made on purpose?
Sjoelund
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 15:50
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One of my infamous copy and not paste, this is the correct presentation
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rsirian1
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 18:21
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Here are the 3 mules listed in SCWC:
SCWC does not list any “pattern” coins for mules.
Sjoelund
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 21:39
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I wonder if we have a “twist” of trying to isolate a mule on its own page by adding it without the KM#? I haven't even tried to look into it, but everything is possible. If the mule has a KM# in scwc, then why has it got lost in numista?
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rsirian1
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 21:44
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I have no idea. I would have thought all three mules with KM numbers would be in Numista.
Sjoelund
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 22:26
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Et voila, numista surprises us once more!
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Sjoelund
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 23:21
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@silvergeek might have some knowledge concerning this? After all, he validated my change requests.
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silvergeek
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Posted: 13 Kas 2025, 23:31
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yeah there is no double just different edges I'll add the KM numbers when I see which ones go to which right after this
silvergeek
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Posted: 14 Kas 2025, 00:01
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Sjoelund
@silvergeek might have some knowledge concerning this? After all, he validated my change requests.
ok so in Krause it lists the mule with the FRIEDRICH WILHELM IV KOENIG VON PREUSSEN in the center of the reverse as KM#342 but does not tell the difference in edge. There is also version with obverse of KM# 333 and reverse of KM# 338 saying ERZHERZOG JOHANN VON OESTERREICH are listed as KM# 339. Then the version with reverse of KM# 337 as the obverse and the reverse of KM# 333 1848 as the reverse listed as KM# 340 that does not list edge types.
These with the obverse of KM#333 and reverse of KM# 341 are listed in the Krause books as KM#342.
I changed the titles so that it is more easily seen from the list what the differences are and did it for the two edge variants of the combo that was listed in Krause that we had two pages for different edges for the KM# 340
N#207048
N#312439
N#312436
N#312435
rsirian1
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Posted: 14 Kas 2025, 00:11
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Maybe change the three Pattern types to circulation?
silvergeek
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Posted: 14 Kas 2025, 00:26
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rsirian1
Maybe change the three Pattern types to circulation?
thx but I changed them to circulating commemorative coins because half of the design on them were supposed to be for circulating commemoratives
silvergeek
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Posted: 14 Kas 2025, 00:26
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silvergeek
rsirian1
Maybe change the three Pattern types to circulation?
thx but I changed them to circulating commemorative coins because half of the design on them were supposed to be for circulating commemoratives
oh you just said circulation didn't specify standard circulation. yep got that done ✅
Sjoelund
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Posted: 14 Kas 2025, 09:49
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silvergeek
yeah there is no double just different edges I'll add the KM numbers when I see which ones go to which right after this
Hi,
thanks, and please keep me informed about the km changes, so I can adjust my documentation?
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tdziemia
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Posted: 17 Kas 2025, 22:05
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Thanks, everyone.
OK to close this?
silvergeek
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Posted: 18 Kas 2025, 01:10
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tdziemia
Thanks, everyone.
OK to close this?
yes
silvergeek
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Posted: 18 Kas 2025, 01:11
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Sjoelund
silvergeek
yeah there is no double just different edges I'll add the KM numbers when I see which ones go to which right after this
Hi,
thanks, and please keep me informed about the km changes, so I can adjust my documentation?
wouldn't change your documentation unless you want to add the edge in them but we don't have photos of most of the edges
Status changed to Done
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Sjoelund
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Posted: 18 Kas 2025, 08:44
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