Identification piece monde musulman medieval

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Bjr 

Je souhaiterai l'identification de ma piece en argent ,d'un diamètre de 25/26 mm,merci pour votre aide

bonjour et bienvenue à toi !

 

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Là c'est du genre compliqué : 

- abbassides

- samanides

- ou omeyyades

Je penche pour une omeyyade mais pas vraiment spécialiste :)

Ce qui peut vous guider, c'est l'étoile en haut du revers, mais bon l'étoile de qui ? pas du berger :)

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Merci 

Hi, Umayyad Caliphate

Maybe this coin

Dirham

AH 93

Mint: WASIT

https://auctions.cngcoins.com/lots/view/4-7DUVQ9/umayyad-caliphate-silver-coinage-ar-dirham-255mm-187-g-10h-wasit-mint-dated-ah-93-ad-7112-vf 

On peut aussi demander sur le forum anglais, c'est pas qu'il y a plus d'omeyyades, mais ça multiplie les chances d'une identification.

Pour chercher un peu tout seul, il y a l'indispensable : CHECKLIST OF ISLAMIC COINS de Stephen rare coins et bien sûr, mais là faut se retrousser les manches, Zeno.ru, votre pièce y est , mais y en a beaucoup d'autres :)

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bonjour

 

chercher là

 

https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=dirham&st=147&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=&ie=&ca=3&no=&v=&a=&dg=&i=&b=&m=1&f=&t=25-27&t2=&w=&mt=&u=&g=&c=&wi=&sw=

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Hi, Umayyad Caliphate

Maybe this coin

Dirham

AH 93

Mint: WASIT

https://auctions.cngcoins.com/lots/view/4-7DUVQ9/umayyad-caliphate-silver-coinage-ar-dirham-255mm-187-g-10h-wasit-mint-dated-ah-93-ad-7112-vf 

Very close ! but the top right lettering on obverse is different, may be another year or ruler than al-Walid I (b. ‘Abd al-Malik), 86-96 / 705-715 ?

Link year 92/711

Just need to find the correct year :)

 

For year 97 (Sulayman (b. ‘Abd al-Malik), 96-99 / 715-717)

Link

بسم الله ضرب هذا الدرهم بواسط سنة سبع و تسعين

I really don't see where the mint ب is written …

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I think it's the one from my link, the one with the star for Wasit is rare, I only found one other, but slightly different ( the crescent and AH 95), on Zeno I found nothing!

 

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=10070845 

In my link:

 

"Umayyad dirhams bearing an eight-pointed star above the reverse field are generally believed to have been struck at an uncertain mint in North Africa, even though they the mint-name 'Wasit.' Klat records a single specimen of this variety"

I didn't find where wasit was it, so Zeno is interesting to confirm (for someone who is not used to it) it's written at the bottom.

Then the date looks more like 92 than 93

I think we may conclude and change the title of this topic:

AR Dirham al-Walid I, AH92, Wasit, uncertain mint north africa (star on reverse)

 

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Umayyad dirhams bearing an eight-pointed star above the reverse field are generally believed to have been struck at an uncertain mint in North Africa, even though they the mint-name 'Wasit.' (Source)

 

Rmk: It seems to me that the title "Al-Walid I" of the page is incorrect because there are lines from AH83 to AH132!

From Stephen Album, Checklist of Islamic Coins, 3rd ed. page 42 :

al-Walid I bin ‘Abd al-Malik, 86-96

Sulayman bin ‘Abd al-Malik, 96-99

‘Umar bin ‘Abd al-‘Aziz, 99-101

Yazid II bin ‘Abd al-Malik, 101-105

Hisham bin ‘Abd al-Malik, 105-125

al-Walid II bin Yazid II, 125-126

Yazid III bin al-Walid I, 126

Ibrahim bin al-Walid I, 126-127

Marwan II bin Muhammad bin Marwan I, 127-132

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