I have found these in a local shop and I haven't been able to find them on the site.
My best guess on the first on is a Jeton but I haven't been able to find it. The second one I assume is a token but I'm hoping someone can give me a little better info.
Thank you for your help Kenny. I had a feeling you would know that one
As for the first one, I have been unable to find anything by searching the text either here or the internet in general. The best I can find are German states coins that have slightly differing text from the obverses and one Roman coin that has the same text and style of design as the reverse.
Looks to me like a Token from the Spanisch Netherlands but can´t help you further.
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Quote: monéphilYes the first is a token for Charles V (Spanish Netherlands)
do you swap it?
I don't, I'm afraid. These oddities are one of my delights in this hobby.
What would a fair price be for such a token? I paid $10.
Is it listed on the site, and if not, is it worth adding?