Portuguese or Brazilian Silver Coin / No Date

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chrismck
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 00:51 #
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I'm having trouble sorting this one out, any ideas?

bam777
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 01:00 #
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6 Vintens Brazil
bam777
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 01:01 #
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Or there abouts! ;)
chrismck
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 01:30 #
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It's Portugal km#353, thanks!
bam777
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 04:52 #
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It says PortBrasil on it.
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 05:34 #
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The phrase "JOANNES VI D G PORT BRASIL ET ALG REX" means Joao VI, By grace of God king of Portugal, Brazil, and Algarves. So not necessarily a Brazilian coin, although it may have circulated there.
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chrismck
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 05:38 #
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Yeah, for some reason it says Brazil, but it's cataloged under Portugal. Pretty light wear for 200 years! Thanks all for your help.
monge Catalogue referee
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 12:31 #
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It is 6 Vintens (120) Reis/Portugal.
The legend says:
YOANNES VI, KING OF PORTUGAL, BRASIL & ALGARVE IN THE GRACE OF GOD.
Due to Nopalean invasion he has gone to Brasil but the coin was made in Lisboa to circulate only in Portugal.
Brasil became a kingdom at that time.
The Brasilian coins from the same period are different.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35535.html
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chrismck
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 15:20 #
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It's part of a lot I'm selling on ebay on consignment, so I will include this information in the item description. Thanks everyone.
monge Catalogue referee
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Posted: 2 Şub 2014, 15:34 #
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Quote: chrismckIt's part of a lot I'm selling on ebay on consignment, so I will include this information in the item description. Thanks everyone.
Attention to the diameter:
If 18mm it is 3 Vinténs (60 Réis)>
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35471.html
if 23.5mm it is 6 Vinténs (120 Réis)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35535.html
In Portugal, the value of any of thase coins, in such a good high condition, it is 80,00 Euros.
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