need help to value this coin, Central American Republic 4 Reales

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 I would like to swap this coin for silver coins, but I have no Idea the value, one of the Numista team said it was a trail strike, dose that mean that there is only one? He also said that it has a minimum value of 100 USD, so what is its top value, should I sell it at auction or what??  

 https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces19958.html

  Any help would be great
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!

Looking for pre 1783 coins
I would argue that there is some question as to the true identity of this coin. Obviously, the heavy wear to both sides does tend to hamper any accurate identification, but the designs on both sides do resemble the Reales struck by the Central American Republic. A couple of deviations though:

> The lettering on the left-hand image (obverse?) does not say "Republico Del Centro De America".

> The Republic only existed between 1823 and 1839, although Costa Rica, Guatemala and Honduras continued to strike coins in the confederation style until 1850, 1851 and 1861 respectively.

The latter point then led me to what I believe is the true identity:

Honduras - State of Honduras (As a constituent state of the Central American Federation)

Real Coinage - 1832 to 1861

KM#20 4 Reales - Obverse lettering "MON.PROVISIONAL DEL EST. DE HOND."

                          Reverse lettering "LIBRE CREZCA FECUNDA" above with date below

Depending on the year struck, the metal is 6.25% Silver, 4% Silver, Copper or Copper-Lead Alloy

How would you grade this - VG? If so, Krause puts the value at between 8 and 16 USD

Do you have the coin? Do you know the metal? Can you tell the date from the coin?

Regards, Rick
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
Sorry, just noticed another couple of types/metal composition:

KM#20    0.1720 Silver   1849, 1850
KM#20a  0.1000 Silver   1851
KM#20b  0.0625 Silver   1852
KM#20c  0.0400 Silver   1853, 1854, 1855
KM#20d  Copper           1856, 1857
KM#20e  Copper-Lead   1857
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
Wow, thanks

  The coin in the Photo is my actual coin, and as you can see the date is missing, it is in poor shape.

  you are probably correct because the tree is not exactly the same as Central American Republic 8 reales.

  pretty sure that its copper.  it was hand struck were the coins you described hand struck?

  Thanks again
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!

Looking for pre 1783 coins
You are a freaking coin wizard,  :wiz: , you were right, Honduras.
  http://cgi.ebay.com/HONDURAS-COIN-4-REALES-1856-5-TF-KM-20d-F-/150562024164?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230e322ae4&clk_rvr_id=239072131277&x=31&y=7

  I think its worth more than $8
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!

Looking for pre 1783 coins
well in the Km catalogue, it doesn't give a price for that coin (if it is a 1856TF); it only says "rare."  I think that E-bay seller is being a bit optimistic about what it will fetch.  Want to make any predictions about whether it sells?
All I did was look in my Krause and Mishler and when I saw the obverse didn't tally with Central American Republic, I dug a bit further - I love it when a plan comes together!

It's not all bad news on the value, either. There are 2 varieties listed for 1856, both with mintmark T (Tegucigalpa) but one is "G", valued at $8.50 for VG, and the other is "F", which is rare and no value is given in Krause (don't know what "G" and "F" are). This might explain why the eBay listing you refer to is up for $200!
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
Topic locked (Numista Robot, 23 Ocak 2019, 22:27)

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