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Quote: jokinenAnd now the CHF test:Not to mention the current economic and political debacle over there. In times of prosperity the crocks get even worse, with many high rank politicians filling their pockets with everything they can take out of PetroBras... reminds me of Mexico and Pemex being controlled by PRI syndicates. "We the oil workers give the PRI candidates millions and millions out of good will because we think they are the best for the country" (a worker opposing that statement would be thrown out of the syndicate).
Before 1834: 1 CHF = 160 Reis
2015: 1 CHF = 9,000,000,000,000,000,000 Reis.
That's a depreciation of 23.9% per year over 180 years. Would you put your savings in Real at a rate of 13%?
Quote: DutchgalegoA little correction!I did not know that. Wikipedia sent me on the wrong track there! I was always wondering why the old plural was different from the new one. I assumed it was language evolution, but now I know it was the Rei instead of Real!
Real=Royal plural Reais=Royals
Rei=King plural Reis=Kings
The words look the same but they're not!
Quote: jokinenI only knew that because of my Portuguese roots otherwise I would make the same mistake.Quote: DutchgalegoA little correction!I did not know that. Wikipedia sent me on the wrong track there! I was always wondering why the old plural was different from the new one. I assumed it was language evolution, but now I know it was the Rei instead of Real!
Real=Royal plural Reais=Royals
Rei=King plural Reis=Kings
The words look the same but they're not!
Quote: jokinenMy Brazilian collection starts in 1864 with a silver 500 Reis. I've seen only very worn older Brazilian coins (including Pedro I ones) and I am quite picky on condition.My older Brazilian coin is from 1816; a 960 Réis, which is an over-strike over what appears to be a Mexican, other Colonial or maybe even an Spanish 8 Reales coin, which can barely tell from the remaining letters in the flat areas of the over-punch. A pretty curious piece, which I got from my mom after she died, as she left me her small coin collection, with several surprises from around the globe. Which surely got to her from my Great-grand-father, who was a sailor who traveled around the globe (at least we are sure he got to China, India and the Russian Empire during his voyages).
Quote: erdvillaWe all are a big Earth family!Quote: jokinenMy Brazilian collection starts in 1864 with a silver 500 Reis. I've seen only very worn older Brazilian coins (including Pedro I ones) and I am quite picky on condition.My older Brazilian coin is from 1816; a 960 Réis, which is an over-strike over what appears to be a Mexican, other Colonial or maybe even an Spanish 8 Reales coin, which can barely tell from the remaining letters in the flat areas of the over-punch. A pretty curious piece, which I got from my mom after she died, as she left me her small coin collection, with several surprises from around the globe. Which surely got to her from my Great-grand-father, who was a sailor who traveled around the globe (at least we are sure he got to China, India and the Russian Empire during his voyages).
And my Great-grand-mother was French, so there you have it, I am 1/16 FrenchAnd one of my sisters lives in France and she has two French children, so "what goes around comes around".
Quote: jokinenMy Brazilian collection starts in 1864 with a silver 500 Reis. I've seen only very worn older Brazilian coins (including Pedro I ones) and I am quite picky on condition.Within a couple of weeks I'm gonna pay a visit to friends in Oporto - Portugal where I do always buy interesting coins for a friendly price.

(from my collection)
(from my collection)Quote: "Dutchgalego"A little correction!And just another correction and a summary:
Real=Royal plural Reais=Royals
Rei=King plural Reis=Kings
The words look the same but they're not!
Quote: "Dutchgalego"A little correction!that's correct. I was thinking about this when I saw your post
Real=Royal plural Reais=Royals
Rei=King plural Reis=Kings
The words look the same but they're not!
I know this is an old post, but I wanted to go ahead and add to it… currently working on my Brazil collection (born there but only lived there for a year).
Per Numista's count, I have 199 Brazilian coins, from the 8 most recent periods (nothing from 1654-1799). 55 are silver, rest are base metal. A few counter-marked (those are pretty cool) and my oldest is 1824.
I think I have almost exhausted all of the “swappers” in the U.S… wish it was easier to swap with people in Brazil!
I found this a few months back and thought that this may be a good place to reference it…
Also, I've had this coin in my collection for some years…
Older Brazilian coins seem to be quite difficult to get hold of in the UK, so despite the somewhat damaged and worn condition, I'm quite pleased to own them.
Great coins! I love the counter-stamped ones. Similarly hard to find in the U.S - the benefit is sometimes when you do find them, they are very reasonable in price!
DutchgalegoA little correction!
Real=Royal plural Reais=Royals
Rei=King plural Reis=Kings
The words look the same but they're not!
We have no singular denomination for Réis, so it´s always plural.
However, if we had, the singular form would be Real.
Why, today, we use Reais instead of Réis? The language evolved.
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