1840 1 rupee variety?

What variety is this. It has 28 berries..





Here's the link
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24095.html

looks like  forgery

look at beads. At least  4  different  varieties of beads.

and "Q" in  "QUEEN"

I highly doubt its  forgery as it was taken from circulation by my family back in 1840...

Quote: SjlundcoinI highly doubt its  forgery as it was taken from circulation by my family back in 1840...

maybe it is contemporary forgery.

what do you think about beads from 10 to 12 o`clock? they are too suspicious.
also beads on 2 o`clock on  " rupee" side" ?
Something near " I"  in  " INDIA"
strongly perpendicular inner line in "Q" of QUEEN instead of  oblique  line?

Rupee  coin has strongly  same size beads all around coin. beads are  one of the most important stuff and  hardest   work for fake-makers.

Hope Im  not correct,, but  I think its a forgery....




 

My pictures were taken at a angle on the first post. Here are some straight-on ones next to an NGC slapped one. They seem tot match up pretty well. You must also acknowledge that the coin has been cleaned at some point and it may give a counterfeit look.

It weighs 11.58g. Normal weight is 11.6g and it is silver.



This is not the real color of my coin. I took it to show detail which is hard to do on my phone.

Your coin seems okay to me and it is KM#458.2, 28 berries, W.W. raised, large diamonds.

Checkout this site http://britishcoins.indian-coins.com/victoria_d1.html
On the right side there are images of different varieties.
You can check the images for difference in small diamonds and large diamonds variety
http://britishcoins.indian-coins.com/victoria_d_anim/big_dia.html
http://britishcoins.indian-coins.com/victoria_d_anim/small_dia.html

Thank you

Quote: SjlundcoinMy pictures were taken at a angle on the first post. Here are some straight-on ones next to an NGC slapped one. They seem tot match up pretty well. You must also acknowledge that the coin has been cleaned at some point and it may give a counterfeit look.

It weighs 11.58g. Normal weight is 11.6g and it is silver.



This is not the real color of my coin. I took it to show detail which is hard to do on my phone.

much better image.

coin is cleaned - no doubts. but beads  are  too different, in their sizes  and forms. I see on  both - obverse and reverse  different size beads, like these. Maybe its a reason of angle...  but you willnot run of it - they are different indeed. I dont know - probably its normal in Indian Rupees, but , for example, in  African colonial coinage  made under Brtitish control,  or   for any  African old coins  minted in Heaton or Llantrisat, all beads are similar. Strongly similar.  and its a first step when  you can  separate fake  coin from  genuine.
I hope Your one is genuine. I wish !

I thank you for your opinion. I will take it to my LCS to see what they say. I am not doubting your knowledge of indian coins, it just that I would like to get another opinion. Maybe in the future I will submit it to PCGS or NGC, but until then there is no definite way to tell its real or fake.

The coin looks OK. 1840 Rupee coins are not that scarce and available for around $15 - $20 in this condition. I wouldn't think someone will try to make fake copies.

I have the exact same coin but in a lower grade, if yours is a forgery then mine would be from the exact same forger, likelihood of that chance is slim to none.

The Q in mine is the same with the line across it, I cant comment on the beads because mine is worn which makes the beats look like a toothed border.

it is quite a common and easy to get coin....sadly.    

Genuine for me....

Quote: SjlundcoinHere are some straight-on ones next to an NGC slapped one.

NGC now slaps coins?  That is so mean!  

The Rupee is type A I by Stevens and Weir (3.33) Pridmore no. 56/57. Check out the Ø must be between 30.5-30.6 mm. Calcutta or Bombay Mint in case of Madras Mint (3.36) the Ø must be 30.7-30.8 mm

Hello

Check how much they weight (11.66 g) it will gives you an indication if are authentic, In my opinion they are genuine.

do a search for fakes on internet
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=81208
http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38157.0
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic19462.html
http://www.diadumenian.com/Congressofprinces/Indian%20Rupees.html

http://www.silvercoins.com/fake-silver-coins-14-ways-to-spot-counterfeits/