16?? monarchs head + rampant lion ? Austria [solved]

I have looked through Krause and used various searches (with wildcards) on Numista but still have not managed to identify the following copper (maybe billon) coin. I believe it may be early 17th century Austrian or one of the German states.

Roy

weight 1.18g
Size: 16.96mm
thickness 0.81mm

Looks to be German States but Im not 100% sure.

The ruler has some similarities to Emperor Charles V, or Karl V (In German)
Here is a coin with a similar looking bust https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces49994.html

The Lion remembers me of the coins from the German State of Hessen-Kassel
such as here http://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=891&category=18579&lot=846938

Oh I think I found the coin, when you click on the link scroll down to the bottom http://www.coingallery.de/KarlV/Niederl_E.htm

Its from the Austrian Netherlands, city of Antwerpen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habsburg_Netherlands

and the Numista link https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42350.html

apuking that was a great bit of detecting worthy of Sherlock Holmes - thanks - It gives me a new country!!!!

Roy

Good job !