Need help identifying 2 coins

Hello everyone,

I got a bunch of coins recently, two of them, quite worn, I do not manage to identify.

First one is a German states coin (I guess), from 1796, but I cannot identify the coat of arms:

Copperish metal, 2,2 cm diameter.

The other one I do not have any clue:

Copperish metal, 1,7 cm diameter.

Any help is much appreciated!!

Regards
Christoph

The coat of arms is Zeeland. :)

Ah, that helps a lot!
I think it is this coin:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces30257.html

Although 1796 is not mentioned there, the rest fits perfectly!

I cannot edit the years from that Zeeland coin (km#105)...the years are "verified".
But this coins exists also in 1796, see:
https://www.google.de/search?q=1+Duit+zeeland&biw=1216&bih=658&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAobrUmrDJAhXFdA8KHfsCDHEQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=1+Duit+zeeland+1796
What can I do to modify the year?

How strange. Even according to Krause, coins like this were not made in 1796. Are you certain that is the date ? Is it possible its something else - maybe you can see better in person. Might Krause be wrong ?
Btw I looked through the Dutch east Indies for Zeeland coins but couldn't find the date there either.
oh and the Batavian republic was proclaimed in 1795 and I don't think they made coins from the individual states after that but i might be wrong...

Quote: "Christopherus13"​Ah, that helps a lot!
​I think it is this coin:
​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces30257.html
​
​Although 1796 is not mentioned there, the rest fits perfectly!

​ Yes - I think it is that - all the same lettering. Here is a 1796 like yours ...
https://www.etsy.com/listing/223479980/1796-antique-dutch-coin-copper-duit-of
I unlocked the years and made a request for 1796 to be added.

EDIT: Dec 13th - now approved so 1796 has been added.

Thanks ZacUk, well done. Thanks to all of you for your help on this one. I am sure it is 1796.

Any thoughts about the other coin????