is this a coin or token???

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 is this a coin or token???
james
Found this description on an ebay listing (which makes it as authentic as Wikipedia)


"Ecu Coin for the European Union minted in France at the Paris Mint in Bronze,  They are 40mm in diameter.

1982 Europa E.C.U. - 25th Anniversary European Economic Community

A design study for the planned single European currency now known as the "Euro".

Measures: 40mm, bronze

Listed in the Krause Unusual World Coins Catalog as KM X42."
Quote: james wolfe  is this a coin or token???
Its a coin. The ECU (European Currency Unit) was proposed, but never went into circulation. Europe (and note we Brits like to say we are not part of Europe <g>) got the Euro instead!

Matt
I wouldn't call it a coin : the ecu never was an official currency. I'd say it's a token : maybe it was possible to use it during a short period and in a limited area.
There is also no indication of issuing country, so you don't know where to turn it in.

Tony
World coins by date and mint place, 1850-2000
Hey guys,

If you list it in *Tokens*, I'm sure an admin will relist it to the country it is issued in.

If it has a KM#, it deserves to be an actual coin. The coin is a fantasy, not a token.
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Oh its a strange one. To me a token is intended to be used, a coin is money, the ECU was proposed but never circulated. But its not what I should describe as "fantasy" either, its not like some imaginary coin produced by a private mint solely for collectors. Rather, like Edward VIII coins in Britain, it is a coin, but never went into official circulation (it was used in travellers cheques and financial transactions howver) being instead replaced by the Euro which bears striking similarities.

Matt

PS

Amd yes ecu was also the name of an old French coin. Coincidence? Probably not!
To me, coins and tokens are separated by two things:
1)  A coin is minted by, or on behalf of, a government.  Tokens are not.
2)  A coin has, or once had, legal tender status by the government that issued it.  Tokens never do.
Didn't the Bank of England issue legal tender tokens in the early 19th century?
Non illegitimis carborundum est.  Excellent advice for all coins.
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i founded another this time its gold???
james

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