Argentine provinces were splitted into 8 sections - self explanatory, as each of those were issuers.
Austrian states were divided into 17 new sections. It is similar to Bohemia, some bishoprics, noblemen and duchies.
Bohemia lost some coins from Silesia it harbored before and got splitted into 13 new sections. Bulk of the coins are Royal ones, others were made by strong cities, or ambitious Olomouc Bishopric and Bohemian Noblemen.
Moravia was splitted into 4 new sections. Three of them are separate duchies, that established when Bohemian state was weak. Fourth is representing similar times, before and after establishment and disestablishment of those duchies.
Newly created Silesia consists of 27 new sections. Besides Royal mint Habsburg coinage and Breslau bishopric coinage that stand out, all of them are rather small duchies or cities that minted own coins.
Bosnia was separated into two - medieval kingdom and modern state.
Bulgaria was also separated in two - medieval empire and modern state.
Crusader states were divided into 12 new sections (more to be added). It represents all different crusader states from both Greece and Levant.
France Feudal was divided into 67 sections.
Lorraine was divided into 8 new sections in order to separate duchy coinage from other issuers (cities, abbeys etc.) in the same area.
German states were divided into 443 sections. It is a coglomerate of different duchies, principalities and kigdoms that existed during ages. Different imperial and royal mints as well as coinages of separate cities, abbeys and bishoprics are also divided into sections.
Hungarian states were divided similarly like Austrian ones into 13 sections.
Indian states and kingdoms were divided into so far 56 sections.
Islamic States were divided so far into 53 sections.
Italian states follow similar suit as German ones, being divided into 59 new sections.
Livonia is similar to the previous ones, it was divided to separate different coinages of different entities. 8 new sections for now.
Low Countries Feudal was divided into 8 new sections, showing different issuers.
Mexico - Revolutionary is now divided into 10 sections.
Mongol states were divided into 5 new sections, to correctly show divisions in Mongol Empire.
Poland was divided into 4 sections and Polish Partitions into there more.
Rus principalities have 4 new sections - it harbors coins from separate principalities after destruction of Kievan Rus and before creation of single Russian state.
Serbia was divided between medieval kingdom, medieval empire and modern state.
Spanish States were divided into 16 sections.
Swiss cantons in 31 sections include coinages of separate cantons as well as other entities as cities and bishoprics.
Venezuelan provinces is similar to Argentine ones - 6 new sections.
Yemen was reorganized and gained section of Mutawakkilite Kingdom and Yemenite states were divided into 7 sections.
Quote: "AmerSalmeh"Did you forget:
- Islamic states
- Indian states and kingdoms
- Austrian states
- Hungarian states
- Spanish states
- China - Japanese puppet states
That is future, and not immediately upcoming change.
For the new country "Sint Maarten" could I suggest to change the name into "Sint Maarten (Kingdom of the Netherlands)" ?
Because Sint Maarten is an island, and this island is devided in 2, 1 part is dutch and the other one is french.
So "Sint Maarten" could be interpreted as the whole island.
Quote: "Indomini16"Hello all,
For the new country "Sint Maarten" could I suggest to change the name into "Sint Maarten (Kingdom of the Netherlands)" ?
Because Sint Maarten is an island, and this island is devided in 2, 1 part is dutch and the other one is french.
So "Sint Maarten" could be interpreted as the whole island.
Quote: "Indomini16"Hello all,
For the new country "Sint Maarten" could I suggest to change the name into "Sint Maarten (Kingdom of the Netherlands)" ?
Because Sint Maarten is an island, and this island is devided in 2, 1 part is dutch and the other one is french.
So "Sint Maarten" could be interpreted as the whole island.
Sint Maarten = Dutch
Saint-Martin = French
On Wiki they says : "This article is about the Caribbean island. For the French side of the island, see Collectivity of Saint Martin. For the Dutch side of the island, see Sint Maarten. For other uses, see Saint Martin (disambiguation).", so reading that, my comment was rubbish :-)
Quote: "jelle"I think that Netherlands VOC should be added. Because they are in East Indies, but they were valid in all colonies.
The VOC was a company and most of the coins were minted in the Dutch Republic. They were mostly used in the East indies.
I agree that it is not fully correct to place the VOC coins under Netherlands or Dutch East Indies, because that name is used from 1816 and the VOC was disbanded around 1800. But I do think the coins under this section are placed correctly. India Dutch for example has their own VOC coins
Maybe it is better to add all the VOC coins for the Dutch East Indies under a single currency as it was used on more than one island.
Special interest in Coins from the Low countries (Feudal-present). Former numista referee for Low Countries Feudal, Burgundian Netherlands, Spanish Netherlands, Dutch Republic, Netherlands and Netherlands East Indies.
Don't mistake Kingdom of Lombardy (XIX century) with Kingdom of the Lombards (VI century). The one in Italian states is the modern kingdom, the older kingdom is in Ancient section.
I do not, that is why I asked whether there is a better name. Renaming of country is easy. I often thought about renaming something to Mordor, kingdom of Tyrion Lannister, land of Giants or something similar. And then wait how long it would take anyone to notice.
Quote: "Jarcek"I do not, that is why I asked whether there is a better name. Renaming of country is easy. I often thought about renaming something to Mordor, kingdom of Tyrion Lannister, land of Giants or something similar. And then wait how long it would take anyone to notice.
That would be awesome!
Special interest in Coins from the Low countries (Feudal-present). Former numista referee for Low Countries Feudal, Burgundian Netherlands, Spanish Netherlands, Dutch Republic, Netherlands and Netherlands East Indies.
Jarcek, what is your opinion on listing the State/Republic of North Peru and the State/Republic of South Peru under the Peru listing. Peru was split into two separate countries, North Peru and South Peru. The two Peruvian republics joined with Bolivia to form the Peru-Bolivian Confederation 1836-39. The coins from the two were minted with the names of North and South Peru.
This subject was previously posted in another forum.
If it's possible, rename "Kingdom of Castile and León" to "Kingdom of Castile and Leon" without accent. We aren't writing Spanish accents in the English side of the Spanish catalog, for example "Kingdom of Aragon", not Aragón, "Kingdom of Valencia", not València.
Thank you
Referee for Spain, Iberia (ancient), Suebi Kingdom and Visigothic Kingdom
Quote: "zegeri"Please, create two new sub-sections under Spanish states:
Kingdom of Leon, an example is https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces107193.html
Kingdom of Castile, an example is https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces122691.html
If it's possible, rename "Kingdom of Castile and León" to "Kingdom of Castile and Leon" without accent. We aren't writing Spanish accents in the English side of the Spanish catalog, for example "Kingdom of Aragon", not Aragón, "Kingdom of Valencia", not València.
Thank you
Quote: "zegeri"Please, create two new sub-sections under Spanish states:
Kingdom of Leon, an example is https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces107193.html
Kingdom of Castile, an example is https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces122691.html
If it's possible, rename "Kingdom of Castile and León" to "Kingdom of Castile and Leon" without accent. We aren't writing Spanish accents in the English side of the Spanish catalog, for example "Kingdom of Aragon", not Aragón, "Kingdom of Valencia", not València.
Thank you
Quote: "zegeri"I see coins of these counties can now be added, but they are not under Spanish states.
Are you talking about country list or search tool? They appear correctly on my side:
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Quote: "Jarcek"I guess you added them, but they did not showed right away. Database updates once in a while, that is why they are not showing up instantly.
You're right. Now they're in the list of countries.
Referee for Spain, Iberia (ancient), Suebi Kingdom and Visigothic Kingdom
I just got Mengjiang coin today, completed all 5 sections under puppet states of the Japanese Empire. Hope the split of the puppet states could be done soon, as there are few coins to change.
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Quote: "Sakrificed"I just got Mengjiang coin today, completed all 5 sections under puppet states of the Japanese Empire. Hope the split of the puppet states could be done soon, as there are few coins to change.
Will be done. With school duties it progresses more slowly.
A number of third-level countries (e.g. some German and Italian states) are currently not shown on the map. Is this related to splitting these countries and is this being fixed?
Quote: "Coin Pioneer"Hi there!
A number of third-level countries (e.g. some German and Italian states) are currently not shown on the map. Is this related to splitting these countries and is this being fixed?
Thanks.
Quote: "Indomini16"Hello all,
For the new country "Sint Maarten" could I suggest to change the name into "Sint Maarten (Kingdom of the Netherlands)" ?
Because Sint Maarten is an island, and this island is devided in 2, 1 part is dutch and the other one is french.
So "Sint Maarten" could be interpreted as the whole island.
Sint Maarten isn't a country at all. It's still part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. :)
Quote: "Indomini16"Hello all,
For the new country "Sint Maarten" could I suggest to change the name into "Sint Maarten (Kingdom of the Netherlands)" ?
Because Sint Maarten is an island, and this island is devided in 2, 1 part is dutch and the other one is french.
So "Sint Maarten" could be interpreted as the whole island.
Sint Maarten isn't a country at all. It's still part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. :)
That could be said about many of listed colonies. It had distinctive coinage.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Other changes:
Three new Spanish states were added.
Several new French Feudal and Italian States issuers were added.
German States are fully split.
Alderney was moved under Guernsey
New Islamic States appeared/were divided.
Ancient Nepal was divided between:
It is my opinion that since Bophuthatswana is currently a part of South Africa that is where it belongs. If Somaliland and Taiwan are ever integrated into Somalia and China PR, respectively, then they should be moved to those countries. The country list should reflect current geographical situations as far as possible. It is like Argentine provinces being under Argentina. At the time they issued coins, they were (in total or in part) seceding states from the Argentine Confederation, which itself was smaller than the Argentine Republic, which was formed when the Confederation merged with the state of Buenos Aires. This may be an oversimplification of the Argentina situation but the basic situation matches that of Bophuthatswana and South Africa. Another similar case is having Hawaii listed under the United States instead of being a separate country, even though coins were issued when it was an independent kingdom.
I think listing Bophuthatswana under South Africa is just fine given the fact it had no diplomatic channels with any nation and it has since been reincorporated into South Africa.
Quote: "BCNumismatics"Somaliland will NEVER reunite with Somalia - as its independence is an irreversible fact.
Bophuthatswana should be listed under the 'Non-U.N. States',as it never had any recognition from any country outside South Africa.
Aidan.
I disagree as Bophuthatswana has not been around since 1994. Also, Bophuthatswana is no longer a county. It makes perfect sense to have it under South Africa.
A long time ago I submitted a proposal to split Ceylon between colonial Ceylon and pre-colonial Sinahalese Kingdom... now Nepal has been divided, but I see no sign of this taking place.
Quote: "CassTaylor"A long time ago I submitted a proposal to split Ceylon between colonial Ceylon and pre-colonial Sinahalese Kingdom... now Nepal has been divided, but I see no sign of this taking place.
We are constantly behind schedule. What was the proposed name? Kingdom of Kandy? I see we aproved it.
Quote: "Jarcek"We have two new issuers:
Kingdom of Kandy and Sultanate of Muscat and Oman.
Bravo! Thanks Jarcek!
Anyway, if you want I could continue to be referee for those Kandy coins after I've moved them to the new issuer; I know much less about them than the colonial issues, but seeing as there probably isn't anyone fluent in Sanskrit, and about half a dozen of the 17 coins that would go into the new issuer were created by me about a year ago, I think I can keep on handling them.
I would recommend keeping the 3 Korea's. It is like Czechoslovakia, which does not list Czech Republic and Slovakia as subsections. If a country is independent, it should be listed separately. If Korea ever reunites, then listing together would make sense. We should follow current political geography.
Quote: "Coinman48"I would recommend keeping the 3 Korea's. It is like Czechoslovakia, which does not list Czech Republic and Slovakia as subsections. If a country is independent, it should be listed separately. If Korea ever reunites, then listing together would make sense. We should follow current political geography.
Will
I disagree with you!
Look at Congo-Dem.Rep. where Ruanda-Urundi is part of that sub-division; and Rep.ofCongo the same.
There is no need to separte the Korea from Nrt & Sth-Korea.
Quote: "Coinman48"I would recommend keeping the 3 Korea's. It is like Czechoslovakia, which does not list Czech Republic and Slovakia as subsections. If a country is independent, it should be listed separately. If Korea ever reunites, then listing together would make sense. We should follow current political geography.
Will
I agree with Will here, though I'm afraid following current political geography isn't really one of our strengths with regards to the Numista country listings.... just ask Côte d'Ivoire and eSwatini.
I think Korea is fine the way it is; until the unification of the Korean peninsula it would be like having Taiwan under China as well. There's no need to have the Russian and Japanese occupation coinage in another issuer separate from Korea as well.
As for Ruanda-Urundi, it was considered a province of Belgian Congo and therefore is properly listed as a sub-section of that issuer. Belgian Congo, Zaire and Dem. Rep. Congo are all essentially geographically the same and so are listed together. Republic of Congo is a physically separate, former French colony and therefore listed by itself. So I think the cases are not similar to Korea.
Is it possible to add the Trebizond Empire as new issuers of the Byzantine Empire ?
The Byzantine Empire was split in three different entities after the fall of Constantinople in 1204 :
- The Trebizond Empire was one of them and some of the coins minted by them are already present in the Byzantine section (Manuel I, John II, Theodora, ...)
- Same about the Empire of Nicaea (I didn't check this part but I think I saw some of them in the Byzantine part too)
- The Despotate of Epirus but it already appears in the crusader states
Quote: "Jarcek"I do not, that is why I asked whether there is a better name. Renaming of country is easy. I often thought about renaming something to Mordor, kingdom of Tyrion Lannister, land of Giants or something similar. And then wait how long it would take anyone to notice.
You don't have a listing for Mordor??
I once met the person who engraved all the coins for the Game of Thrones. His commission is that he gets 10% of the coins minted. He did very well when the corporate heads decided to make a special set of gold coins for their executives.
Seriously, I have a problem with the flood of "Essai" issues, that have about the same legality as most of the issues from Liberia.
I wonder how future generations will treat them.
In some ways, it is like the guy in the 1960s that got fed up with the fantasy coins, and issued his own set from "Purple Shaftieuland". They were quite popular--and still available.