Schön Catalog or Others...

Hi

Question regarding some coin catalogs, does Schön catalogs are available in English? I have search around but only find the German versions, or inside the catalog the information is both in German and English, would be easy to use for a non-German speaker - as most of the information will be in the same style?

Also was the Gadoury Monnaies et jetons des colonies françaises produced in English at one point?

I think I can understand the French version, but I will feel more comfortable buying something I can fully understand without using a dictionary.

Hi Justforfun I found a Schon catalog at a resale store a few years back for 50 cents. What is in English. from 1979-1980 with values. Pub by Simonand and Schuster New York. You may look up on net to see if they are still made. It only the twentieth century.

it funny on the values, way off.Here is the values for UK gold sovereign 1902-1907

Hey you still need to send me your address for your 2 cent coin. But I hope this helps.

English versions of Schön/Schön-catalogue were published only from 1972 (1st edition) to 1988 (6th edition).

I use both, Schön and KM. Both have advantages and disadvantages. Sometimes Schön is more accurate and provides more/better information, sometimes KM. Schön is built-on by year, KM by nominal.

In my opinion you can use Schön as non-native German speaker without problems. Dictionary will help you.

I find Schön less user friendly than Krause. I don't like the built-on by year in Schön that much but I'm using Krause about 40 years and I've only bought my first Schön last year so I'm probably not completely objective. And the fact that Schön is only available in German is not an advantage either, although I have to admit I can use the catalogue without much problems because I speak a little bit German.
I also have to admit that Schön is more accurate than Krause and you'll find more recent coins.
It's also very nice Schön gives a KM# number in parentheses (and then you can clearly see how much coins are already in Schön but not yet in Krause).

But of course, the question was not a comparison between Krause and Schön but if Schön also exists in English. I don't think so. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that in the past it was Günter Schön who was the autor while nowadays it is Gerhard Schön, as you can see on the cover:

many thanks for your comments, I think I will go ahead and buy one (second hand) to give it a try.

but I am really curious why this publisher's doesn't go for a broader market with an english version, almost every coin shop will buy one, that's like at least 10.000 copies if not more, plus any other collector...

More costs, more work and competing in KM saturated markets I think.
Also why pandering to the monolinguals all the time (you're not included in that one JustforFun ) give them an incentive to learn.

Quote: "Idolenz"​More costs, more work and competing in KM saturated markets I think.
​Also why pandering to the monolinguals all the time (you're not included in that one JustforFun ) give them an incentive to learn.

​You are right... I do enjoy languages my Japanese coin catalog is in Japanese and very difficult, but once you get around its easy to find your references....

I would not mind the Gadoury in French, this will add something special to my coin collection, but having something more international will be great. I guess we all have to stick with KM for a while.

Quote: "JustforFun"​many thanks for your comments, I think I will go ahead and buy one (second hand) to give it a try.
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​but I am really curious why this publisher's doesn't go for a broader market with an english version, almost every coin shop will buy one, that's like at least 10.000 copies if not more, plus any other collector...

​I guess the publishers of KM and Schön co-operate in some way: At the Frankfurt coin fair Numismata two weeks ago the Battenberg-Gietl-Verlag (publisher of Schön) sold KM-catalogues as well.

That's very strange. You would think they are competitors.
But maybe that explains why the KM# numbers are in parentheses in the Schön catalogue, because you don't expect that for competitors. At the other hand, this might be done to convince Krause adepts to switch over to Schön more easily.

Mr. Schön was asked in 1991 by KM to add KM-numbers in parentheses (instead of Y-numbers). Mr. Schön realized it in 2005:

https://www.emuenzen.de/forum/threads/suche-weltmuenzkatalog-20-jahrhundert-von-schoen.44659/#post-497097

Very nice that Gerhard Schön himself is moderator on that forum. If someone from Krause would be moderator on such a forum too there would be a lot less mistakes in Krause and much more forgotten coins. At least if they listen.

To my mind Shoen is more reliable for europian especially german coins, Krause better shows american prices. For lots of countries both show prices as of 2-3 years ago and you have to base on local catalogs, like Gadoury in France or Konros in Russia. But in general Shoen shows more real prices as for me.