I probably have another that's above 92 NRI, but I'm too lazy to dig through the catalogue to find it, so the most rare coin i could bother to find according to NRI would be my 1842 Danish India 4 Cash:
My "rarest" coin doesn't exist in numista list. So its NRI is 100 ))) I'll add it a bit later after scanning.
It is DDR mule 10 mark with Albert Schweitzer KM 57 (obverse from KM 58, reverse from KM 56).
Mine is probably this one as the known issue is only 20, but the rating is 95, so someone else also has one.
I have quite a few with a rating of 97, but mintage is between 5,000-20,000, so not, in my mind, really rare.
Quote: "CassTaylor"Also, finally found a coin of mine that is NRI 97;
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces113916.html
Venetian 1/4 Ducat of Pietro Grimaldi (ND 1751-52)
(Photos are from the Numista page but they are of my coin)
Maybe I should replace it with this? I added reference numbers from that auction also.
Numista Index rarity: 97- because it's me!
I did research from period material. I found out everything about Britannia - Coal Mining in the Czech Republic during the Austro-Hungarian Empire. However, the second token or production information for which I was designed was not found and not found.
Is it rare if only one is preserved? Or are there more?
" Who gives me information about the existence of the other and what it was intended for my colleague- (first) I will send a gift of a coin"
Ahoj Ivan
Quote: "CassTaylor"Also, finally found a coin of mine that is NRI 97;
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces113916.html
Venetian 1/4 Ducat of Pietro Grimaldi (ND 1751-52)
(Photos are from the Numista page but they are of my coin)
Maybe I should replace it with this? I added reference numbers from that auction also.
Nooooo! I like having pictures with my copyright in the catalogue!
Numista Index rarity: 97- because it's me!
I did research from period material. I found out everything about Britannia - Coal Mining in the Czech Republic during the Austro-Hungarian Empire. However, the second token or production information for which I was designed was not found and not found.
Is it rare if only one is preserved? Or are there more?
" Who gives me information about the existence of the other and what it was intended for my colleague- (first) I will send a gift of a coin"
Ahoj Ivan
The writing on token is related to Germany, as German companies write A.G. at the end of company name
The translation of this is
LIFE MEDIUM BEARING VER BRITANNIA CARBON Works A.G. SEESTADTLD. ROBERT BAY
The writing on token is related to Germany, as German companies write A.G. at the end of company name
The translation of this is
LIFE MEDIUM BEARING VER BRITANNIA CARBON Works A.G. SEESTADTLD. ROBERT BAY
Hi, friend
Britannia was founded by Sir. George W.Griffiha Britannia Gewrkschaft -a citizen from the UK, who saw a brown coal surplus at the town of Sokolov in Bohemia in Austria-Hungary around 1890 - was a potential entrepreneur. The company's headquarters were in the village -Seestadtld (Po-German) Ervěnice in the maps. The village vanished by mining - it was removed. It was a brown coal mine "Robert" later Jana Švermy mine "DJŠ"
In this area, German was the official jazz, and most of the population was German or Czech speaking German. The date of the token may be 1910-1913.
I have read the log Mine "Robert" - no mention of a token or medal or something I do not know when it was given, why and what was meant. If as a stamp in the warehouse of food owned by the company during strikes and riots of miners in the Austro-Hungarian Coal Mines.
NRI 97.
I had to add it myself though, but it's still not a one-off and im surprised it wasn't already on the website.
The picture used on the listing is the coin I have. :) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125927.html
I added this one to the catalogue: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces104706.html
The pic is mine, but due to a misunderstanding during page creation it doesn't show my copyright. Not that I care much, it's not that good of a pic anyway.
Also an ancient Greek bronze AE11 from Abydos that I added but never got approved, I only found two other examples of it online so it might be rare? But it's tiny and poor condition, found it in an uncleaned lot, so meh
10 Cash from China (Republic), Fujian Province: NRI 87.
It was not expensive at all. By contrast, some quite expensive and hard to find coins have much lower NRIs (I mean price and availability here in my country).
Quote: "COINMAN1"Not necessarily. What if he/she has it to exchange, but not in his/her personal collection?
Wouldthis gve it a rarity value of 100?
Yes, but the only reason it would be for exchange, is if he owned it, therefore, in his personal collection. I understand the way he is doing it, but I don't think it is the "right" way.
This is where we are different.
I do not have any of my GB coins listed on Numista, but have lots of them listed as swaps. I know none of them are rare, so the rarity number is not affected by my actions.
I understand both methods of thinking, so is there a right/wrong way of doing it?
Quote: "COINMAN1"This is where we are different.
I do not have any of my GB coins listed on Numista, but have lots of them listed as swaps. I know none of them are rare, so the rarity number is not affected by my actions.
I understand both methods of thinking, so is there a right/wrong way of doing it?
I thought I saw something by Xavier or Jarcek when the new entry mode was made on this, but I can't find it now. The way you do it now is the way Numista was always "meant" to be used (by Xavier), but I never knew that. In the new input method, they changed it to the way that I do it. i'm not sure what that changed, but there was some reason, like the number of coins in your collection statistics or something.
If you are correct in this way of adding exchange coins, only when you have added them into your personal collection, I will have to delete all of my GB coins from my swap list.
This would be a shame, as most of the coins other collectors want are from my home country.
Quote: "COINMAN1"Not necessarily. What if he/she has it to exchange, but not in his/her personal collection?
Wouldthis gve it a rarity value of 100?
Yes, but the only reason it would be for exchange, is if he owned it, therefore, in his personal collection. I understand the way he is doing it, but I don't think it is the "right" way.
It would be the right way perfectly fine, I own it yes and infact mine is the exact one in the picture on the page. If I put on the listing that I have one in my collection and one for swap, that would imply I own 2 of them. happy 100!
Quote: "COINMAN1"Not necessarily. What if he/she has it to exchange, but not in his/her personal collection?
Wouldthis gve it a rarity value of 100?
Yes, but the only reason it would be for exchange, is if he owned it, therefore, in his personal collection. I understand the way he is doing it, but I don't think it is the "right" way.
It would be the right way perfectly fine, I own it yes and infact mine is the exact one in the picture on the page. If I put on the listing that I have one in my collection and one for swap, that would imply I own 2 of them. happy 100!
That's what the change was. Now I remember. By adding one for swap, and one in collection, it will NOT count double in your statistics, as this is how it was supposed to work. When you add 2 in collection, and 1 for swap, only 2 will show up in your collection. It is meant to work like, "I have 2, I want to swap x amount of those".
Ash,
I assume that the token is only in your swap list, so you do really only have one. I see nothing wrong with this. Perhaps the system needs changing, so that collection and exchange coins are accumulated to give a rating.
That would solve everything
Quote: "COINMAN1"Ash,
I assume that the token is only in your swap list, so you do really only have one. I see nothing wrong with this. Perhaps the system needs changing, so that collection and exchange coins are accumulated to give a rating.
That would solve everything
This is already the way it is, but you have to use the "correct" method for it to work.
nthn,
but what if you only have 1? It cannot be in your collection and on your swap list. I know you do it different to some of us, but perhaps we do not know all the rules.
nthn,
Yes, I realise that, as that is what I do with all of my non GB coins, but if you only have 1 coin/token, such as a special GB coin, I would only put it in my swap list, but not my collection list.
This means that my collection total would not change.
Quote: "nthn"Yes it can. If I put one in collection, and one for swap, only one will show up in my collection statistics.
I don't think you consider a coin that you own and want to exchange as part of your collection : you probably don't put them with the other ones.
For me, coins that you have in exchange are not part of YOUR collection because you won't keep them : you own X coin, with Y coins in exchange and Z coins in your collection.
Normally the right way is to have a single entry per coin : the statistics concern only coins you collect, not all the coins you own.
I made an experiment related to those rarity questions.
I downloaded data about the NRI of all my coins (Xavier once mentioned that there is no issue with this; similar technique is mentioned in this thread about coin organizing software).
Now I can see some statistics of my collection. I have 51 coins where NRI = 3; 178 coins where NRI = 4; and so on. At the end of the list there is one coin with NRI = 87. Here is a diagram for my entire collection:
I think it matches the intuition that my collection consists of coins that are not rare. So NRI seems reliable after all.
What I find unclear is that there are more coins with NRI value 5 than coins with values 3 and 4.
Quote: "numinis"
What I find unclear is that there are more coins with NRI value 5 than coins with values 3 and 4.
That's because few coins are so common that so many Numista members have them, and/or because for coins that common (the sort of stuff that makes up cheap poundage) most people who own them don't bother to add them to their Numista collection, driving the NRI (somewhat) up.
Note how there's no coins at all with a NRI of 1 or 2 (in your collection, at least; no idea whether there are any in general - or, rather, I'm fairly sure there's no 1 yet, but have no idea about 2).
I wonder if, at least in theory, it goes back to 0, or whether 1 is the minimum possible... I guess maybe we'll find out in a few decades?
Quote: "January First-of-May"Note how there's no coins at all with a NRI of 1 or 2 (in your collection, at least; no idea whether there are any in general - or, rather, I'm fairly sure there's no 1 yet, but have no idea about 2).
I wonder if, at least in theory, it goes back to 0, or whether 1 is the minimum possible... I guess maybe we'll find out in a few decades?
Quote: "January First-of-May"Note how there's no coins at all with a NRI of 1 or 2 (in your collection, at least; no idea whether there are any in general - or, rather, I'm fairly sure there's no 1 yet, but have no idea about 2).
I wonder if, at least in theory, it goes back to 0, or whether 1 is the minimum possible... I guess maybe we'll find out in a few decades?
Well, surely some of them are more common than others, because otherwise we wouldn't have had some of them at 3 and others at 4
(I suspect that the German eurocent might actually be more common, but most Numista members who have that type don't bother to enter their examples, because to them it's just normal circulating currency.)
I suspect that the actual reason is that a coin type has to be owned by something like 100,000 members to get a 2 or 1 rating, and so far no coin had made it all the way up to that.
(Apparently, until 2015, no type had even made it to 3.)
There is a formula, indeed.
I think it could be smaller than 3 but we probablly need much more users to reach it yet.
If so, I guess the Lincoln cent will be the first NRI 2
Personally for me, NRI is quite a useless metric - it shows the coin rarity only in Numista community context. It would be rather useful to see it as a coin popularity index, rather than rarity index.
Quote: "druzhynets"Personally for me, NRI is quite a useless metric - it shows the coin rarity only in Numista community context. It would be rather useful to see it as a coin popularity index, rather than rarity index.
Quote: "druzhynets"Personally for me, NRI is quite a useless metric - it shows the coin rarity only in Numista community context. It would be rather useful to see it as a coin popularity index, rather than rarity index.
IMHO I disagree... I understand the difference between coin value/year mintage/NRI vs Real rarity, BUT
the NRI is an index of how many people in the site own such coin, which is a good indicator of how easy or hard it would be to swap the coin with other Numista members (the coin availability in our community).
There's a great chance I'll manage to get any coin with a "low" NRI from my peers on this site, but for a coin with a "high" NRI I may need to get it somewhere else as very few Numista members will have it available (or willing to trade).
I agree with druzhynets : it's a popularity index as it depends on what people are collecting on this platform.
Some tokens are really common but don't have much interrest for most Numista collectors, so they got a hight NRI just because people don't want them.
Plus, most people on Numista collect modern coinage : those coins will have a lowest rarity index than the old ones !
Some roman coins minted during the fourth century are easy to get because they were minted in huge quantity and are regularly found in hoards (you can see some of them available almost every day online) but there is no much people who collect them on Numista so they get hightest NRI than rarest modern coins.
Same about the islamic coinage : we are a minority on Numista to collect them even if some of them are easily available.
I have seen about one hundred of the following coin sold every week since few months but it only has a NRI 92 : https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces140405.html
Don't really collect next to that criteria as I am not materialistic and consider it a fun hobby rather than a contest.
But I did find an armistice 50 cent piece missing its central design.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society