How far back can we go? The Sequel continuation (currently at 1497)

171 posts

» Quick access to the last post

1517: Under Maximilian I minted in St Veit, Carinthia

Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
1516 denar Hungary, Wladislai/Ulaszlo

Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
1515 -- Kempten, 1/2 batzen:

1514 1/2 grosz Kingdom of Poland

Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
1513 -- Lithuania, 1/2 groat:

1512 1 denar, Hungary, Ulaszlo/Wladislai


Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
1511 1 denar, Hungary, II Ulaszlo/Wladislai II

Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
1510: A pfennig from Salzburg under Leonhard von Keutschach.


I still have a 1505 and that will be all for me :)
Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
Quote: "Ecapoe"​​I still have a 1505 and that will be all for me :)
​unless someone else has a 1505 and is faster than you ;)
So, we're expecting 1508 and 1505 for this thread? I'll hold off on posting those.

Any other years between 1509 and 1498? If I don't hear anything today, I'll post 1509 tonight and then wait for 1508.
Quote: "phfoticus"​So, we're expecting 1508 and 1505 for this thread? I'll hold off on posting those.

​Any other years between 1509 and 1498? If I don't hear anything today, I'll post 1509 tonight and then wait for 1508.
​I have 1497. if we reach it, also had a few others but I was too slow, after 1497. my next one is 1383. :D
I collect and deal in ancient Roman coin. In case you're looking for affordable ancient coins or need any help with the coins you already have send me a message.
I missed 1517 and 1513 (had no photos anyway), and my next date is 1323, I think?

Might have one or two more in the 15th or 14th century (I don't recall whether I'm imagining some purchases, and some of my unattributed coins might be dated).
Quote: "phfoticus"​Any other years between 1509 and 1498? If I don't hear anything today, I'll post 1509 tonight and then wait for 1508.
​i'm ready to post my 1508, and it still bugs me i missed my 1548..
Quote: "phfoticus"​So, we're expecting 1508 and 1505 for this thread? I'll hold off on posting those.

​Any other years between 1509 and 1498? If I don't hear anything today, I'll post 1509 tonight and then wait for 1508.
​I was honoring the obligatory 24 hours to be fair before adding.
Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
Since we're taking a little break here, I'm gonna give a quick thanks to whoever keeps updating the title (ZacUk I presume) so I don't have to every other day. :`
1509 1 denar, Hungary, II Ulaszlo/Wladislai II




Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
Quote: "ngdawa"
Quote: "phfoticus"​Any other years between 1509 and 1498? If I don't hear anything today, I'll post 1509 tonight and then wait for 1508.
​​i'm ready to post my 1508, and it still bugs me i missed my 1548..
​Ready for your 1508.
Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
Quote: "gginga47"
Quote: "ngdawa"

Quote: "phfoticus"​Any other years between 1509 and 1498? If I don't hear anything today, I'll post 1509 tonight and then wait for 1508.
​​​i'm ready to post my 1508, and it still bugs me i missed my 1548..
​​Ready for your 1508.
:O
Hungary, 1 Denár, 1508
Quote: "January First-of-May"​I missed 1517 and 1513 (had no photos anyway), and my next date is 1323, I think?

​Might have one or two more in the 15th or 14th century (I don't recall whether I'm imagining some purchases, and some of my unattributed coins might be dated).

Hopefully, you'll take photos of your 1517 and 1513 coins for the "How far back can we go (4th edition)" thread over at CCF, before it reaches 1517 and 1513.
Quote: "phfoticus"
Quote: "January First-of-May"​I missed 1517 and 1513 (had no photos anyway), and my next date is 1323, I think?
​​
​​Might have one or two more in the 15th or 14th century (I don't recall whether I'm imagining some purchases, and some of my unattributed coins might be dated).
​​
​Hopefully, you'll take photos of your 1517 and 1513 coins for the "How far back can we go (4th edition)" thread over at CCF, before it reaches 1517 and 1513.

​The problem with my 1517 is that I hadn't seen it in well over a year. I would have posted it if I could.

I'll try to remember the 1513, though!
Quote: "January First-of-May"​I missed 1517 and 1513 (had no photos anyway), and my next date is 1323, I think?

​Might have one or two more in the 15th or 14th century (I don't recall whether I'm imagining some purchases, and some of my unattributed coins might be dated).
​whow, a 1323 dated ! What "country" is it from ?
Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
Quote: "Ecapoe"
Quote: "January First-of-May"​I missed 1517 and 1513 (had no photos anyway), and my next date is 1323, I think?
​​
​​Might have one or two more in the 15th or 14th century (I don't recall whether I'm imagining some purchases, and some of my unattributed coins might be dated).
​​whow, a 1323 dated ! What "country" is it from ?
​Indian states.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces43617.html

Actually, I should check my example again; it's possible that the date is actually unidentifiable (it's something like 80% off flan, but I thought I could figure out the last digit).
EDIT: still think it's a 3, mostly because it doesn't seem to fit anything else. Could be a 21 that's bunched up really far right, I guess?

EDIT 2: the more I look at my coin and at other examples, the more I'm confused about what the date is. Though it does appear that a lot more is on flan than I thought there was.
Should I post the coin in Numista's identification forum? I do have photos already.
1507 1 denar, Hungary, II Ulaszlo



Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
1506 -- Hungary, 1 denar:



Waiting for 1505
1505 1 denar, Hungary

Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
Too bad, we missed a nice little rare coin for the 127th hungarian denar !
:o:D:D:D
Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
We have at least 30 Hungarian denars since 1600, I actually went and counted :wiz:
Quote: "CassTaylor"​We have at least 30 Hungarian denars since 1600, I actually went and counted :wiz:
​wow! and i thought we had a lot of medieval lithuania in mid-1500..i guess the hungarian coins a cheap and easy to get..
The earliest dated denars are from 1503, and they aren't common, so I don't expect many more for this thread.

Certain denars before 1503 can be narrowed down to just one year, if anyone here is an expert on Hungarian denars.
Quote: "phfoticus"​The earliest dated denars are from 1503, and they aren't common, so I don't expect many more for this thread.

​Certain denars before 1503 can be narrowed down to just one year, if anyone here is an expert on Hungarian denars.
Unfortunately, ​I am not and I have several ND before 1503.
Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
1504 -- Brandenburg, 1 groschen:


(no more denars from me)
1503 -- Brandenberg, 1 groschen:

1502 (MCCCCCII) -- Gottingen, 1 kortling:

@phfoticus How far back can you go personally?
Beyond that point we might start running into trouble.
Quote: "CassTaylor"​@phfoticus How far back can you go personally?
​Beyond that point we might start running into trouble.
I have coins back to 1498, and I see that cro321 has one from 1497. After that, my next ones are from 1492 and 1491, but I doubt this thread will get that far.​
Quote: "phfoticus"
Quote: "CassTaylor"​@phfoticus How far back can you go personally?
​​Beyond that point we might start running into trouble.
​I have coins back to 1498, and I see that cro321 has one from 1497. After that, my next ones are from 1492 and 1491, but I doubt this thread will get that far.​
M coin is not dated but the mint mark on it was used only in 1497., if I remember correctly it's ok to post coins like that but I have to ask just to be sure? :)
I collect and deal in ancient Roman coin. In case you're looking for affordable ancient coins or need any help with the coins you already have send me a message.
Quote: "cro321"
Quote: "phfoticus"

Quote: "CassTaylor"​@phfoticus How far back can you go personally?
​​​Beyond that point we might start running into trouble.
​​I have coins back to 1498, and I see that cro321 has one from 1497. After that, my next ones are from 1492 and 1491, but I doubt this thread will get that far.​
​M coin is not dated but the mint mark on it was used only in 1497., if I remember correctly it's ok to post coins like that but I have to ask just to be sure? :)
Yeah, its fine as long as a coin can be traced back to a year.​
Quote: "CassTaylor"
Quote: "cro321"

Quote: "phfoticus"
​​

Quote: "CassTaylor"​@phfoticus How far back can you go personally?
​​​​Beyond that point we might start running into trouble.
​​​I have coins back to 1498, and I see that cro321 has one from 1497. After that, my next ones are from 1492 and 1491, but I doubt this thread will get that far.​
​​M coin is not dated but the mint mark on it was used only in 1497., if I remember correctly it's ok to post coins like that but I have to ask just to be sure? :)
​Yeah, its fine as long as a coin can be traced back to a year.​
​My next, and last, is 1481..so far no thread has ever gone that far (of what I know of), so maybe this one could be the first..?
1501 -- Hannover, 1 kreuzgroschen:

1500 -- Salzburg, 1 batzen:

Beautiful coin ! I have been running after one of those for quite a while :)
Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
1499 -- Holland/Dordrecht, 1 stuiver:

We made it to the 15th century! :wiz:
1498 -- Brabant/Antwerp, toison d'argent:



This is my last coin for this thread, unless it reaches 1492.


Hungarian silver denár II. Ulászló (1490-1516) with the K - SE mint mark minted only in 1497., my last one for this thread. :)
I collect and deal in ancient Roman coin. In case you're looking for affordable ancient coins or need any help with the coins you already have send me a message.
No one for 1496?
Quote: "CassTaylor"​No one for 1496?
​do you have?
Quote: "ngdawa"
Quote: "CassTaylor"​No one for 1496?
​​do you have?
​Nope x.
Quote: "CassTaylor"
Quote: "ngdawa"

Quote: "CassTaylor"​No one for 1496?
​​​do you have?
​​Nope x.
​The only ND 15th century coin I have remaining is a 1462, then maybe one Roman coin from 326. I continue to look for certain years to fill gaps, but I'm cheap/frugal. I'm done for now.
Beware of forgeries. But....sometimes they can be valuable, too.
Just a public service announcement:

If anyone acquires a 1496, they're still very much welcome to post on this thread!

Otherwise, I'm glad everyone who participated on it had fun posting their coins, and thanks for helping to break the last thread's record by more than a century. :)
It's usually around here these threads reach its limit.. my next, and last, is 1481.. yeah, good luck to me :wiz:
Quote: "ngdawa"​It's usually around here these threads reach its limit.. my next, and last, is 1481.. yeah, good luck to me :wiz:
​Yeah, I kind of expected it.

I don't think we'll be seeing a 1496 anytime soon, since on the Numista catalogue:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?mode=avance&p=1&l=&r=&e=&d=&ca=3&no=&i=&v=&m=&a=1496&t=&dg=&w=&u=&f=&g=&c=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&te=y&cat=y

Only 4 coins are dated 1496, and all have 100 NRI as of this time of writing. But hey, who knows.
There are 2 others that have 1496 as ND year. Still, nobody owns those.
Catalogue administrator
Those coins have a date on them that can match here too :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces68840.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces132603.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces79067.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80912.html

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?mode=simplifie&p=1&l=gujarat_sultanate&r=%22Nasir+Al-Din+Mahmud+Shah+I%22&e=&d=&ca=3&no=&i=&v=&m=&a=&t=&dg=&w=&u=&f=&g=&c=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&te=y&cat=y
@Cyncos

But none of those are traceable to a single year (1496)....
Quote: "CassTaylor"​@Cyncos

​But none of those are traceable to a single year (1496)....
​They are, we only have to read the number "901" on them.

1st link : the last two digits of the date are usually written at bottom left ot the observe (sometimes just under the cartouche). On the numista picture it's the year "٩٠" so 890 AH.
2nd link : bottom of the observe with arabic digits
3rd link : bottom left of the reverse side with arabic digits too (we only see the last digit "٣" on the numista picture)
4th link : same as above (we only see the top of the last two digits "٩٩" of the date on numista).

Last link : I didn't verify all of them, but the date should be written somewhere with arabic digits too.

Most of the oriental coins with arabic legends have dates written on them (sometimes in full) during the medieval period. Unfortunately I mostly have mamluk coins from the 14th century to help with.

Just to let you know. Going back to the last thread. 1618 is missing from the last list.

There are now many members owning 1496, just to let you know :)

Catalogue administrator

I have N#80827 year 901 as 91 (1496)

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

N#52476

 

Queen Elizabeth I - 1566, with the date clearly visible above the Coat of Arms, but unfortunately no head on the Obverse.  

 

To think, the nobility at the time were walking around in doublet and hose.  Sir Francis Drake was taking to the high seas and raiding Spanish and Portuguese shipping (To the Spanish, ‘El Draque’ - The Dragon, was a wayward pirate and a threat to their empire, but a hero to the English Court).  And, it was 100 years before the Great Fire of London.  

 

The magic of coins - History in your hand.

Amateur coin collector with some tokens

LDC63

N#52476

 

Queen Elizabeth I - 1566, with the date clearly visible above the Coat of Arms, but unfortunately no head on the Obverse.  

 

To think, the nobility at the time were walking around in doublet and hose.  Sir Francis Drake was taking to the high seas and raiding Spanish and Portuguese shipping (To the Spanish, ‘El Draque’ - The Dragon, was a wayward pirate and a threat to their empire, but a hero to the English Court).  And, it was 100 years before the Great Fire of London.  

 

The magic of coins - History in your hand.

I think you are supposed to post a coin from 1495 …

Oops !!!  Sorry

Amateur coin collector with some tokens

The list is still MISSING  THE YEAR 1618.

vapaaman

The list is still MISSING  THE YEAR 1618.

Nope, 1618 was Spain, 4 maravedis, posted by phfoticus on 20 Jan 2018.

ngdawa

vapaaman

The list is still MISSING  THE YEAR 1618.

Nope, 1618 was Spain, 4 maravedis, posted by phfoticus on 20 Jan 2018.

I apologize. I got mixed up by the 2 posts just before the 1617 coin. because those 2 post were talking about the 1619 coin and not the submission.

vapaaman

ngdawa

vapaaman

The list is still MISSING  THE YEAR 1618.

Nope, 1618 was Spain, 4 maravedis, posted by phfoticus on 20 Jan 2018.

I apologize. I got mixed up by the 2 posts just before the 1617 coin. because those 2 post were talking about the 1619 coin and not the submission.

 

No worries!

So, what year  are we on?

Waiting for 1495 :)

Catalogue administrator

Ok I’ll check my collection. :)

» Forum policy

Used time zone is UTC+2:00.
Current time is 00:40.