mohab
Joined: 25 May 2018
Posts: 51
Posted: 29 May 2018, 20:17
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Posted: 29 May 2018, 20:17
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Hello everyone.
I am Mohab, a new numismatist from Egypt, I am 3 months into collecting.
I found this coin for sale and for a great price, is it too good to be true? or it isn't fake?
Front:
Back:
Catalog link:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces16857.html
To me it looks right, but I am not an expert (yet!)
Thanks
PetrusAscanus
Joined: 22 Kas 2014
Posts: 6304
Posted: 29 May 2018, 23:14
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Posted: 29 May 2018, 23:14
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Details are rather crude
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
CassTaylor
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Posted: 30 May 2018, 00:26
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Posted: 30 May 2018, 00:26
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Fake if you ask me, based on details on portrait (particularly hair).
Not 100% sure, but 95% sure.
Tovarich
Joined: 9 Ağu 2015
Posts: 877
Posted: 30 May 2018, 01:11
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Posted: 30 May 2018, 01:11
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Crude details indeed, but the thing that jumps out to me, not that I can be 100% just from a picture, but that coin appears to be made of aluminum.
tolnomur
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Posted: 30 May 2018, 11:12
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Posted: 30 May 2018, 11:12
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It is a fake. There are some wrong details in helmet in the front part, in the ear and nose too close to mustache.
But copy is well done....
PetrusAscanus
Joined: 22 Kas 2014
Posts: 6304
Posted: 30 May 2018, 12:43
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Posted: 30 May 2018, 12:43
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If you are new in coin collecting, you should learn about detecting silver coins from fakes.
Please read this:
http://www.silvercoins.com/fake-silver-coins-14-ways-to-spot-counterfeits/
Neodymium magnets are a must for detecting silver. I have bought mine here:
https://www.supermagnete.be/eng/block-magnets-neodymium
to make a slide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gLB2uMAMYM
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
halfdisme
Joined: 6 Ekim 2017
Posts: 850
Posted: 30 May 2018, 22:43
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Posted: 30 May 2018, 22:43
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You need to also be aware that Italian coins have been a special target for counterfeiting for decades--long before the Chinese even thought about it.
A PCGS coin grader once wrote in Coin World that all Italian coins submitted were considered fakes, until proven otherwise!!
kommodore
Joined: 5 Kas 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 30 May 2018, 23:23
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Posted: 30 May 2018, 23:23
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I wouldn't be so sure that it's fake.
50% chances.
You need better pictures.
luca biondi
Joined: 23 Eyl 2017
Posts: 545
Posted: 31 May 2018, 01:04
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Posted: 31 May 2018, 01:04
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just to compare
halfdisme
Joined: 6 Ekim 2017
Posts: 850
Posted: 31 May 2018, 03:55
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Posted: 31 May 2018, 03:55
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Do not misunderstand--I would not dump it, until I had it examined by someone with experience of Italian coins.
Just do not be surprised if it is fake.
mohab
Joined: 25 May 2018
Posts: 51
Posted: 3 Haz 2018, 01:38
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Posted: 3 Haz 2018, 01:38
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Thanks everyone, i will avoid this coin since it's probably fake..
Quote: "tolnomur" It is a fake. There are some wrong details in helmet in the front part, in the ear and nose too close to mustache.
But copy is well done....
The nose is the only thing i suspected.
Quote: "PetrusAscanus" If you are new in coin collecting, you should learn about detecting silver coins from fakes.
Please read this:
http://www.silvercoins.com/fake-silver-coins-14-ways-to-spot-counterfeits/
Neodymium magnets are a must for detecting silver. I have bought mine here:
https://www.supermagnete.be/eng/block-magnets-neodymium
to make a slide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gLB2uMAMYM
Great resources thanks a lot!
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