The latest from Canada mint - a Superman sculpture-coin

I've read this blog post:
https://caraoucoroa.blogosfera.uol.com.br/2018/09/15/das-hqs-para-o-dinheiro-canada-lanca-moeda-escultura-do-superman/

And here's the Canada mint page: https://www.mint.ca/store/article/article.jsp?itemId=900004


It's strange to call this a coin, looks more like an action figure. But I admit that they made a good job, it looks nice!

And thinking that Enterprise-shaped coin was the weirdest coin they've made.


So what do you think about this one?

I never knew Superman had an unfortunate encounter with King Midas.

Seriously though, it looks like it should be a statuette- which is maybe what the makers intended it to be for fans? Either way I don't collect modern, so Starship Enterprise, Superman, Glow in the dark- they're all just a meh from me.

I'm thinking we should have a new term for things like these; "legal tender non-coins" (assuming the definition of "coin" is a small round disc with monetary value). There's always going to be a grey area as to the cutoff point (like this concave coin) but ambiguity is part of what gives life its flavour.

Quote: "CassTaylor"​I never knew Superman had an unfortunate encounter with King Midas.
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​Seriously though, it looks like it should be a statuette- which is maybe what the makers intended it to be for fans? Either way I don't collect modern, so Starship Enterprise, Superman, Glow in the dark- they're all just a meh from me.
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​I'm thinking we should have a new term for things like these; "legal tender non-coins" (assuming the definition of "coin" is a small round disc with monetary value). There's always going to be a grey area as to the cutoff point (like this concave coin) but ambiguity is part of what gives life its flavour.

​technically, a coin doesn’t need to be a round disc. Else give me all your UK 50p and sundry “non coins” and let’s call it day

the Canadian mint has been through a rough patch lately with its CEO Quitting not too long ago. They had a disastrous experience with the 20 for 20 series when people started returning these in large numbers and getting frustrated that it wasn’t the easy process the mint lead everyone to believe it was.

The canadian mint will call anything a coin if it’ll help sell you up and they can make a profit. So don’t split too many hairs over such stuff.

there is however one glow in the dark coloured coin worth collecting - the twoonie Dance of spirits with the Northern lights glowing a subtle green. It is indeed a circulation coin though I have only come across it once so far

@ashlobo
Okay fine, I'll take the round part out.
But that goes to show how fuzzy the border is.

Geez, just when you think the Canadian Mint have hit rock bottom, they break out the jackhammers and just keep on going. Good luck getting a coin flip to hold that one.

Quote: "neilithicman"Good luck getting a coin flip to hold that one.

​Lol, obvo it needs a rotating display like in that video .

Philatelists would say NO to that kind of stamps:

http://www.pwmo.org/Illegals/14-fip-prohibited-issues.htm


"They do not correspond to the internal needs of the country for postal traffic..."

Well said! Should we be more strict with these kind of issues in the field of numismatics also?

Quote: "Trp"​Philatelists would say NO to that kind of stamps:
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​Well said! Should we be more strict with these kind of issues in the field of numismatics also?

​"Illegal issues"?

Wow, that's a harsh word.
I'd be interested to see if anyone can draw up a similar charter for coins.

Quote: "CassTaylor"​I never knew Superman had an unfortunate encounter with King Midas.

​Good one! Truly a good one!

We know what happened when King Midas met Medusa on their first and only date...

I'd like to apologize for the RCM embarrassing us yet again in the worldwide community of coin collectors.

What a horrible thing
Some mints such as the Austrian Mint still produce pretty well engraved designs but many mints with their new releases I make a big detour around them.

The more I witness modern coinage, the less I'm interested in it.

It's very pretty household ornament but it's not a coin. Just because the marketing gurus at the RCM call it a coin doesn't make it so. I'm selling my old Toro lawn mower and there's nothing preventing me from describing it as a Ferrari to gin up the price but it's still going to be a lawn mower. Presumably this means that the average gardener is a lot less gullible than the average coin collector eh?

Now that many mints, lead by the RCM, have abandoned all respect for their own history along with the legitimacy of their product range it can no longer be safely said that a coin may be defined as something issued by a government. How low have they fallen when the output of the Franklin mint is numismatically more sound than that of Canada's official mint? You can't just point to random objects and shout "COIN!".

Overproduced proofs not intended to circulate can arguably be regarded as coins because they at least have the potential to do so. Those without a business strike equivalent are on more shaky ground but we mostly let it slide because they at least look like real coins. Other than in some silly fantasy scenario, how can this monstrosity be used as a means of payment? It's not intended to meet the needs of commerce and it lacks even the potential to be used . It's no more a coin than last month's toothbrush.

Now at this point it's usual for the cheap seats to start jumping up and down shouting worn clichés about "You can't tell other people what to collect!". Nobody is saying you can't buy them, you're free to collect them, you can even call them coins if it makes you happy. Just don't demand that I go along with the absurdity.

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Quote: "CassTaylor"​I never knew Superman had an unfortunate encounter with King Midas.
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​​Good one! Truly a good one!
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​We know what happened when King Midas met Medusa on their first and only date...
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​I'd like to apologize for the RCM embarrassing us yet again in the worldwide community of coin collectors.

​Glad someone appreciated the reference!

My knowledge of classics is not optimal but I can at least remember the most striking ones, like Hercules, Perseus, Theseus, Oedipus, the Odyssey, etc. Every Greek myth is somehow related to the others in one way or another; goes to show that they were making fictional universes long before Stephen King or Marvel came along.

If that is a coin only because there is a circle and it's done by the Canadian mint then I'm the Elizabeth II because I have a brain and my mother made me.
Seriously I don't understand why are all the mints currently doing such.... things and calling them coins.

This RCM took craziness to the next level. One word: disgusting...

It's not a coin. It's a sculpture. Way back when a seashell was also a form of legal tender it was not called a coin, it was a seashell.

I am often disturbed by how easily led people can be when the Media says "this is so" and everyone just blindly believes it. And don't get me started on global warming.

Reviving my thread as the RCM did it again: a tridimensional carousel-shaped coin.
From the last weekend's post of the blog I mentioned on topic's 1st post.

I think it's the same case of the Superman "coin": as a coin, it's a beautiful decoration piece.

Quote: "Giobruno"​Reviving my thread as the RCM did it again: a tridimensional carousel-shaped coin.
​From the last weekend's post of the blog I mentioned on topic's 1st post.
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​I think it's the same case of the Superman "coin": as a coin, it's a beautiful decoration piece.

​The part about the intricacy of the parts brings up an interesting question; if someone damaged the mechanisms, would that lower its "grade"?

Concave coins have been around for centuries. Cyphates. Not sure if the spelling is correct. Member of my coin club has dozens of them..
mostly byzantine, but includes the modern ones...

So, if this devolpment continues, we are gradully going back to other 3D object used as money, like shells, kissypenny or this manilla-bracelets, in my simple opinion it has all nothing to do with coin(collecting)...