How did you get it, without wishing to be indiscreet ?
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Cannot seem to find any sold in the past 100 years at auctions.
The wavy surface suggest to me that this coin was a ground or detecting find.
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I also read Wikipedia about the graph and its territory. Also I can not find information about selling this coin at least somewhere.
What do you think is the degree of rarity of this coin? And in what limits can there be a price for such a numismatic unit?
Quote: "apuking"Cannot seem to find any sold in the past 100 years at auctions.
The wavy surface suggest to me that this coin was a ground or detecting find.
Yes, indeed, a coin is dug out of the ground, it is noticeable on the surface of the coin and characteristic coating.
Directories do not even have a photo of what it looks like. There is no circulation, no degree of rarity, no price!
Which specialists would you advise to contact?
Quote: "apuking"Cannot seem to find any sold in the past 100 years at auctions.
The wavy surface suggest to me that this coin was a ground or detecting find.
There are others too but these are all very trustworthy and should be able to reach the highest price for such a coin.
For the rarest coins I recommend to sell it at auction houses duirectly from where the coin is from.
Best regards and good luck with selling it,
Paul
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Please also know, Auction houses will give you what the coin sold for - 15-25% which they will keep for themselves.
Still on such a rare coin it makes much more sense to sell it at such an auction house.
What it will make, that is hard to say but its surely is valuable. Typically rare German coins will not sell for unbelievable amounts such as rare US coins but still Im quite certain that this coin even in this quality can make 2.500 € to even maybe quite a lot more.
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Degree of rarity > Number of known eksemplar
R* > 1
R8 > 2-3
R7 > 4-6
R6 > 7-25
R5 > 26-120
R4 > 121-600
R3 > 601-3000
R2 > 3001-15 000
R1 > 15 001-80 000
R > 80 000-400 000
--- > 400 000 - >
In which tape is this coin?
Who can write prices in front of each level?
I recommend to contact two different auctions houses: Künker (largest and best known auction house in Germany) and Dr. Busso Peus Nachf. (because it should be firm in coins of Hesse - of which Hanau-Münzenberg today is a part of).
Should be KM# 62 (no picture in KM, but description fits to Cthusq1's coin).
Perhaps you can find more (written) information here:
Hamburger Beiträge zur Numismatik (HBN), Band 6, Ausgaben 18/19 (1964/65) - Dorfmann, B.: Unedierter Dukat 1638 des Grafen Philipp Moritz von Hanau-Münzenberg (1612-38) · 153 & Tf.16
By the way: Did the owner buy the coin or did he find it by himself?
Pricing according to the passes through the world's specialized auctions compared to similar rare-earth ducats HANAU-MÜNZENBERG of the same period of 1637-1663, which correspond to the same degree of rarity of R8 (2-3 eks.), ranges from 7 000 to 30,000 dollars.
