US large cent flowing hair - grade

Does anyone have an idea on what the grade of these coins would be? and value?

1st



2nd

https://en.numista.com/numisdoc/coin-grades-58.html

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/World-Coin-Price-Guide.aspx


http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/NumismediaPricing.aspx?SubCatID=11&Designation=MS&PopSubCat=Flowing-Hair-Cents

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/NumismediaPricing.aspx?SubCatID=12&Designation=MS&PopSubCat=Liberty-Cap-Cents

Quote: ZacUKhttps://en.numista.com/numisdoc/coin-grades-58.html

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/World-Coin-Price-Guide.aspx

So would you say good? fair?

 I added two more links to the first reply - giving specific values for the two below ...

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24558.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces23468.html

  As your coins to me do not look like KM# 12 'flowing hair', but KM# 13 'Liberty cap'.
I have no idea on grades, perhaps fair. Each member may have a different opinion; perhaps others will reply here also and say what they think.  

thanks you!