Following a french thread started by Eagle68, that I found very interesting, I would like to share this idea with the english side as well.
The idea is to make the reference book more visible than they are today.
Currently for most of our coins pages we use reference like that:
1 - The problem is that this info is display as a bubble and therefor is not clickable, you have to be creative or to go to another part of the site to copy the information to be able to purchase the book you want (it's definitly not user friendly).
2 - This way of displaying is similar to what we do with engravers, but beside the engraver there is an option to click to visit a relevant pages. This link also allow to put pictures, a missing features for the reference books that make it look currently a bit old fashioned.
So In clear the idea will be to replace the current 2 secions that's seems outdates here and here, and make a kind of collaborative side catalogues for references books only.
It should look like a coin pages but with different info:
By example for the World coins it will allow us to list all the publications by date.
The only thing is to be able to publish more than 1 pictures by pages and to keep the latest version as the front picture.
If we link that to our coins pages and to the Reference catalogs section, that will look incredible.
Quote: "Xavier"I agree we need something like that.
You can expect something like this in the coming months, although maybe not as detailed as on your screenshot.
Thanks :-)
Whatever will be better than now, and don't worry we can wait.
Also note that a nice feature will be to use it to virtually store our Numismatique collection and potentially sellect it in a Swap, so it's why I made this details veiw at first ;-)
I like the idea because when you click the link similar to the Engravers page this would be better than buying a World coin reference book which costs a lot and becomes out of date when new coins get introduced after being published.
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Quote: "Worldwide collection"I like the idea because when you click the link similar to the Engravers page this would be better than buying a World coin reference book which costs a lot and becomes out of date when new coins get introduced after being published.
I don't think the intent is to violate copyright laws by linking to an unauthorized electronic version of the book.
Quote: "Worldwide collection"I like the idea because when you click the link similar to the Engravers page this would be better than buying a World coin reference book which costs a lot and becomes out of date when new coins get introduced after being published.
I don't think the intent is to violate copyright laws by linking to an unauthorized electronic version of the book.
I didn’t mean by that but just a bit of information about the coin and all of the reference list. but I’m just saying that it is better than buying a World coin book and it being out of date after a year.
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Hello,
You can now click on a catalogue code on coin pages and see the details about the catalogue.
See for example the Standard Catalog of World Coins.
That’s a good start ;-)
I have 4 question:
1-I have books that have no pictures right now, can I add it or should I ask someone? What is the process?
2-Can we add the links to this page?
3-For the World coin, how the different books are sorted?
4-In the cases of catalog like Schon that are updated frequently, should we remove the info we have and load the most recent one?
For any modification (pictures or others), requests should be posted on the coin catalogue forum or banknote catalogue forum. Please check the box "requesting a new reference book for the catalog".
Yes, I will do.
I'll try to see how I can improve sorting.
Yes, we should try to keep the latest version (please refer to point 1). Listing the previous editions could be nice, but it's low on my priority list.
For any modification (pictures or others), requests should be posted on the coin catalogue forum or banknote catalogue forum. Please check the box "requesting a new reference book for the catalog".
Yes, I will do.
I'll try to see how I can improve sorting.
Yes, we should try to keep the latest version (please refer to point 1). Listing the previous editions could be nice, but it's low on my priority list.
Regarding point 1 and and related to your answer on point 4 "it's low on my priority list.", I think the best way to keep it up to date would be to have the same systeme as for Coins pages, with predifines fields links to 1 or 2 Referees. This way any one can submit changes to improve and keep update the database.
For point 3 if you add a filed Volumes you will be able to differenciate the Volume 1 and 2 of a same page Keeping it in an organise way.
And overall I think it should be out of Numisdoc and have it's own section "Library". But that's a point we can keep for later :-)
As you said, that's just a start: a quick win until we have a more detailed library in the future.
Quote: "Indomini16"And overall I think it should be out of Numisdoc and have it's own section "Library". But that's a point we can keep for later :-)
Quote: "Xavier"As you said, that's just a start: a quick win until we have a more detailed library in the future.
Quote: "Indomini16"And overall I think it should be out of Numisdoc and have it's own section "Library". But that's a point we can keep for later :-)
Quote: "Xavier"As you said, that's just a start: a quick win until we have a more detailed library in the future.
Quote: "Indomini16"And overall I think it should be out of Numisdoc and have it's own section "Library". But that's a point we can keep for later :-)
Would a table be a good format for the full list site or just a reduction to the most essential information like Code; Author(s); Title; Year and for extra information like ISBN etc. you have the link?
Maybe be the inclusion of the language and maybe the field that the catalog covers in English could then be added to the extra information page.
For any modification (pictures or others), requests should be posted on the coin catalogue forum or banknote catalogue forum. Please check the box "requesting a new reference book for the catalog".
Yes, I will do.
I'll try to see how I can improve sorting.
Yes, we should try to keep the latest version (please refer to point 1). Listing the previous editions could be nice, but it's low on my priority list.
Regarding the point 1 it will become necessary to have an Exonumia catalogue forum
Regarding the point 4 the previous version would be needed if you open the option to include a catalogue in your collection and therefor to a Swap, but as far as this feature is not devellop it's not really needed.
Quote: "Xavier"I just added the links from the full list of reference catalogues to each catalogue page.
I still would like to make 2 short term improvements:
Set a more logical order for the volumes
Link to an online copy of the book, if the catalogue is legally available online.
Quote: "Indomini16"Look like I registered 10 years too late ;-)
If it's easy, would like to see it coming back.
That's nearly impossible. But anyway you would be disappointed by the quality of this past section of Numista; there was a good reason it was removed.
Just few ideas to make it look nice:
1 - I have a problem with the reference book displau on this page:
I just can read it because if I go down the windows desapear...
So I would better advise as we have now the link to the complete info to only give the Book title and the author name.
2 - Would it be an idea to add in the picture of the 1 volume of the catalogue?
Something like:
3 - For the change request, can we change the current title: "This message aims at: requesting a new reference book for the catalog" into "This message aims at: requesting the addition or modification of a reference book for the catalog "
4 - Maybe it will be needed to had a copiright field to the pictures of Catalogues to stimulate the people to send their pictures, like we have for Coins, tokens or banknotes.
I adjusted the tooltip so that it shows a picture (when available) and the bibliographical notice of only one volume, with just a mention indication whether there are more volumes. I believe it's preferable to keep the full bibliographical notice, since the publisher or the dates are sometimes important.
I also modified the label "requesting the creation or the modification of a reference catalogue"
Copyright is a tricky topic. The picture is just a reproduction of the cover. The copyright belongs to the publisher (or perhaps the author and/or the artist who designed the cover, in some cases). I assume that the copyright owners would not blame Numista for showing copies of the book covers, but it might be deceitful to mention the name of the user who uploaded the picture as the copyright owner.
(To some extent, the same logic may apply to pictures of coins and banknotes, but that's another topic...)
Status changed to Implemented(Xavier, 21 Nis 2021, 23:22)
